Places   (Help with places, streets and buildings in Wigan.)

I`ll assume it really is you Sheila and that you will reply ..
to all my comments like the honest and truthful lady that I know you to be.Going back to my very first comment on this thread I mentioned that I thought there were several things wrong with the design of the garden.
!/ that the opening was in a very dangerous position being actually in the entrance to Woods Lane rather than on the pavement at the top.as per my rejected design...Veteran agreed with me as I know will many others as time goes by. Who wanted it there? Ken Barston the secretary of the SCRG who claimed that the Heritage Lottery funders had demanded that the garden has to be exactly as was the original garden.
My suggestion that the original garden in 1630up to 1890 didn`t even have a wall round it was shouted down by KB in one of our many arguments. This from a man who not only didn`t beleive Stubshaw Cross was ever a real cross but never believed that it was even a garden originally.
So that`s why we`re stuck with a wall round it and an opening in the wrong place. As I have said, you didn`t have 38 ton waggons running around in 1890..
2/ the CRoss is made of wood because the original cross was made of wood.... I`ll give him that one. But did we have vandals in 1630? no way. And the original cross did last long enough to get people in 1841 saying they lived by the Stubshaw Cross at the start of the population in the village... So the cross is made of wood because KB said it had to be... I wanted metal. and even david wanted stone. but once again KB got his way. Supported,of course by the rest of the committee.. So what next? How about ownership of the land? Come on Sheila. tell us all who gave away our land,our heritage, tell us who to,and why. and about the 25 year lease..and what will happen in 25 years time? Vindictive? Me? Never!!!