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What is the oldest house/hall/building in Wigan
Started by: blackrodweaver (386) Report abuse
With recent news of Haigh Hall being refurbished I wondered if it is the oldest building in Wigan

any ideas

The present hall was built between 1827 and 1840 by James Lindsay, 7th Earl of Balcarres, on the site of the ancient manor house built 1193

Posted by: PeterP (5766) Report abuse
Some of the churches have been around well before this

Posted by: tonker (18704)   Report abuse
In WIGAN? It must be some of the town centre shops, around the Galleries.

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4504)   Report abuse
some of the pies qualify as well.

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1210) Report abuse
morning Joe dont jump on Tonkers anti wigan bus

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4504)   Report abuse
morning Colin ,

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1210) Report abuse
must be some really old properties somewhere in wigan as wigan was the romans capitol city in the north west

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4504)   Report abuse
those packet houses at new springs must date well back ,the pub just over the canal bridge at new springs (name eludes me)dates back centuries.

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1210) Report abuse
packet house was done up a few year ago very nice

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4504)   Report abuse
that pub might be the colliers arms.

Posted by: winder (1293)  Report abuse
Aye it is the Colliers Arms, just had a look on street view.
The datestone says 1700.
A few pints been pulled in there over the years.

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4504)   Report abuse
I went in there a couple of times when I lived in aspull burtonwood brewery beer I think.

Posted by: tonker (18704)   Report abuse
Hey thee! Stop saying I'm 'anti Wigan'!

I'm 'Pro Wigan'. What I'm 'anti' about is classifying other places as being Wigan when they clearly aren't!

For instance, Haigh Hall has never been in Wigan, and it isn't very old anyway.
If you want to know the oldest building in Wigan 'COUNCIL', you'll have to include the rest of a large area.

If it's the 'borough' you want, how about St. Wilfrid's church, in Standish?

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1210) Report abuse
was the colliers arms been shut for years

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4504)   Report abuse
another sad end to a pub, ITV are showing a programme tonight,

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1210) Report abuse
1 pub in lower ince ,4 pubs in higher ince now

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4504)   Report abuse
it would be a struggle to have a pub crawl nowadays.

Posted by: MarieM (4477) Report abuse
I've read that the Boar's Head pub in Standish dates from the 13th Century and is the second oldest pub in England.

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1210) Report abuse
Some of the customers have been in since it opened a very clicks pub

Posted by: lavino71 (125) Report abuse
So has the furniture from when I walked in and smelly it was also..

Posted by: MarieM (4477) Report abuse
apparently, it's doing really well at the moment.

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4504)   Report abuse
and well done to them great news .

Posted by: grandmas (594) Report abuse
The Parish Church (the present one built in 1845) and Rectory/Wigan Hall (1875) must qualify as two of the oldest buildings and are most definitely in Wigan!!

Posted by: tonker (18704)   Report abuse
Do they buggery! How can they be if they're less than 200 years old? What 'used to be there' doesn't count!

The Whitesmith’s Arms, built in the early 1600's, is one of the oldest buildings in Wigan.
Peel Hall, just outside of Wigan (in Ince) was built in 1345.

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4504)   Report abuse
tonker once again your a mine of information,if I wore a cap I would take it off to you.

Posted by: tonker (18704)   Report abuse
Yes. You would. (isn't Google a wonderful thing?)

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4504)   Report abuse
absolutely marvellous .

Posted by: mollie m (6197)  Report abuse
Nah! The original Parish Church IN Wigan dates back to the late 12th century - 1199 to be exact - so that must be the oldest building IN Wigan!

Posted by: baker boy (13501) Report abuse
the foundations might be.

Posted by: wiganyankeeron (inactive) Report abuse
The oldest building is what was the police garage and was originally a school. Don't know what its used for now? It is near the parish church entrance to Crawford street

Posted by: tonker (18704)   Report abuse
"Paddy had the same brush all his life, so he did. He gave it a new head every month and a new shaft every two years"!

Once a building is demolished, then rebuilt, it's not the same building.
The oldest building in Wigan, officially, is the Whitesmiths Arms.

Posted by: MarieM (4477) Report abuse
ron Is it the one on the same side as the telephone exchange or on the side of the Parish Church.

Posted by: flaggy delf (516) Report abuse
Marie, it is the old Bluecoat School, used by the Police as a lock up for cars in the 1960s. Walking through the Churchyard to come into King of Prussia Yard and Hallgate it would be on your right after passing the Church.

Posted by: MarieM (4477) Report abuse
Thank you flaggy delf

Posted by: tonker (18704)   Report abuse
The Bluecoat School was the first school in Wigan and built in 1773.
On the other hand, the Whitesmiths Arms, which is officially the oldest building in Wigan, was built in the early 1600s.

Posted by: tuddy (846) Report abuse
What date was given to that exposed brickwork in the John Bull?

Posted by: flaggy delf (516) Report abuse
Marie,if you can get to go into the old Bluecoat school, usually open on a Saturday, see the wonderful wooden framework on the back wall which I believe is about 16th century. It came out of Standishes shop on Standishgate when it was demolished.

Posted by: MarieM (4477) Report abuse
flaggy delf I will try on Saturday. I always thought the Bluecoat School was at the bottom of where the Bus station is now near Frog Lane.

Posted by: tonker (18704)   Report abuse
You know what thought did?

Posted by: flaggy delf (516) Report abuse
The school moved location.

Posted by: MarieM (4477) Report abuse
neil, I have been today but I couldn't locate it. I will try again next week.

Posted by: flaggy delf (516) Report abuse
Marie I think I may have told you wrong. I think there is an archway in the churchyard wall on the bus station side of the Church as if you were exiting into Crawford St. Go through and it is immediately to your right

Posted by: MarieM (4477) Report abuse
Neil, I was walking through the Parish Church grounds today and these two men were coming out of this building so I asked them and they showed me. The building doesn't look that old but they said it was because of the new door and it had been sandblasted.

Posted by: flaggy delf (516) Report abuse
Marie, do go in if you ever see it open. The wooden frame on the back wall is worth a look.

Posted by: MarieM (4477) Report abuse
Neil I will watch out for it being open.

 
 
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