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Gardening - And All Things Gardening Related (3)
Started by: jo anne (31314)   Report abuse
Carrying on from the lengthy gardening thread (2): Feb'15 - Jun '16

*Incredible Wigan to launch later this year*

On Tuesday 28th June, the Incredible Edible team will be in Believe Square (The Wiend) to demonstrate their skills and help volunteers plant fruit, veg and herbs.

Incredible Edible makes local food accessible to all with volunteers encouraged to plant it in communal areas such as grass verges, gardens, parks and schools and colleges.

Founder Pamela Warhurst launched the scheme eight years ago in Todmorden and is delighted to be growing Incredible Wigan.

Pam, who is originally from Leigh, said: Its a really simple initiative ... about growing food and supporting local food businesses, tasting local produce and helping people to use food to be happy and healthy."

Links: www.incredible-edible-todmorden.co.uk / incredibleediblenetwork.org.uk

Posted by: jo anne (31314)   Report abuse
www.wigan.gov.uk

Posted by: Anne (2983)  Report abuse
Having birds and especially pigeons taking lawn seed soon after it has been sown whenever I have dug out weeds I decided to sow grass seed in seed trays. A very successful experiment. I am now ready to do patching in the next few days. Cut a patch to any size as I would if using bought turves.

Posted by: PeterP (5902) Report abuse
Anne may try that myselfTried casting seed and then covering with netting but the starlings still got to the seed

Posted by: blackrodweaver (431) Report abuse
Lost all my Impatiens bizzie lizzies to downey mildew .
cant compost them as it may infect the next lot of them I put in. thank god it doesn't infect other plants... anyone else had this problem

Posted by: dave b (1196)  Report abuse
My first sunflower as come out, 7ft at the moment ,thought i would have a change this year and get some mixed colours

Posted by: momac (7961)  Report abuse
Oh Dave I love that colour.

Posted by: dave b (1196)  Report abuse
The edge of the petals are a golden colour momac, hard to tell with the photo ,took it with my phone.Just a waiting game now to see what other colours are.

Posted by: momac (7961)  Report abuse
I really didn't know that there was any other colour than yellow...that is a gorgeous colour.

Posted by: Anne (2983)  Report abuse
I've been looking for a skirt or pants that colour for ages!
You're quite an expert with sunflowers Dave, I remember last years.

Posted by: dave b (1196)  Report abuse
Got the seeds off Ebay Anne, from premier seeds, their called Autumn Beauty ,mixed colours 75 seeds.99p 7ft 10ins now the tallest.

Posted by: dave b (1196)  Report abuse
Another flower out today ,tallest now is 8ft 5ins

Posted by: priscus (5789) Report abuse
Black Scurf (Rhizoctonia solani) on mih spuds.

piccy: this stuff

Would not mind, but these were grown in potato growing bags, with commercially purchased compost: they have not come into contact with garden soil. Either seed potato was already infected, or some agent has acted as a disease vector from infected soil.

Posted by: dave b (1196)  Report abuse
All yellow one out today

Posted by: blackrodweaver (431) Report abuse
priscus I grow a few potatoes every year usually in the garden soil. but a year or so ago got a potato grow bag given me , and I had the same problem was told its because the soil is "light soil" not compact enough. you can still eat them just peel it off.only affects the skin

Posted by: dave b (1196)  Report abuse
and another

Posted by: priscus (5789) Report abuse
Grow your own Saffron.

Not for me, My soil too heavy/clay, but

on special offer

Posted by: priscus (5789) Report abuse
This time of year, I buy garden lime, to help open up my heavy clay soil.

I was extremely surprised to discover that price this year is TWICE what it had cost last year!

( I don't think it can be blamed on the falling pound: surely we must produce our own garden lime in the UK.)

Posted by: kathpressey (4123)  Report abuse
agapanthus//I bought some this year for the bees but they didnt grow much in their pots. Do I take them out for winter or leave well alone?

Posted by: Anne (2983)  Report abuse
Kath... I wish I could grow them. I have tried pots, in the ground and read all kinds of advice but always no joy. Post if you succeed, I would love to know.

Posted by: kathpressey (4123)  Report abuse
i think I will leave them be and hope for the best Anne. i was inspired by beauties in a NT garden but I've just got a few short leaves

Posted by: priscus (5789) Report abuse
Lavender has been the most potent attraction for bees in my garden.

Posted by: kathpressey (4123)  Report abuse
yes I've planted lots of lavender but lost a few last winter. the agapanthus we saw that day were covered in bees.

Posted by: lapis lazuli (inactive) Report abuse
Agapanthus prefer dry soil. We have two here which Tom overwinters in the greenhouse.

Posted by: priscus (5789) Report abuse
27th December. What I need now is a good frost to nip all the weeds that have germinated in the recent warm winter days.

It is rather difficult to get at them, either by hand, or using any sort of tool, without disturbing the newly emerging spring bulbs amongst which they have appeared.

Posted by: PeterP (5902) Report abuse
Due to the mild weather on walking round the garden and looking in the pots it is surprising the amount of bulbs that have pushed through the soil. Just hoping the frosts don't kill them off.Even some of the bushes have got new buds bursting through.

Posted by: Anne (2983)  Report abuse
Think yourself lucky you have some left Peter. Several weeks ago I planted over fifty crocus bulbs....today I found many uprooted and chewed. Could it be mice, there were several small holes in the ground nearby.
The established bulbs were left alone.

Posted by: jo anne (31314)   Report abuse


Facebook Link

Posted by: jo anne (31314)   Report abuse
Potato Day, Sun 12th Feb, 11.30am - 2.30pm, St Benedict's Parochial Club, Hindley WN2 3AD



Lucky Hens Potato Day (Facebook)

Posted by: PeterP (5902) Report abuse
Got my potato set(main crop-Maris Piper) from the garden centre.Will leave them in the shed till the end of the month then get them spritting for mid-March and then plant them in the raised bed I made last year.Grape vine did not get a lot of leaves on it last year no grapes at all. Will see what happens this year hope I have not lost it(not cheap to buy)

Posted by: momac (7961)  Report abuse
Peter..I grew some last year in bags,can't say I got a lot but hope I've
learned a bit more by reading ..am saving my egg boxes to store them..will
probably get Maris Piper this weekend from garden centre.
Re your grape vine..the one I had didn't produce grapes the first year..but
the problem was my greenhouse is only small and it literally took over
making no room for tomatoes and cucumber so it had to go I'm sorry to say
On the subject of cucumbers I'm going to try growing them outside this year
If they fail well at least I've tried.

Posted by: scoop (3283)   Report abuse
I have a yucca in the back garden that is in flower, couldn't believe it when i saw it.

Posted by: momac (7961)  Report abuse
Scoop..I used to have one..it flowered and was beautiful,but it got very big
and I gave it to my next door neighbour,but every year I can see it flowering
in her garden from my landing window,and could kick myself every time I see it.

Posted by: scoop (3283)   Report abuse
momac
I understand why you gave it away, but at least you can still see it flower. I will never get rid of mine it has three stems of it now and it is gorgeous.

Posted by: jo anne (31314)   Report abuse
Thur 23rd March, 3pm Sunshine House are giving away seed potatoes with Incredible Edible
If you'd like any let them know so they can put your name down.



Sunshine House Community Hub, Wellington St, Scholes WN1 3SA Tel: 01942 820026
www.sunshinehousewigan.com / Facebook / @BarbaraNettleto (Manager)

Posted by: momac (7961)  Report abuse
Scoop,they really are a sight to behold aren't they..don't ever give yours
away no matter how big it grows.

Posted by: priscus (5789) Report abuse
Weeding:

Once upon a time, I possessed an ancient, very narrow, Dutch Hoe: the blade was only some two, or maybe two-and-a-half inches wide.

This was a very useful tool for cutting newly emergent weeds, particularly amongst the spring bulbs currently blooming. Such a narrow blade easily controlled close to stems of flowers, veg, and strawberries.

Alas, some years back, this valued implement has walked.

Have searched online, and gardening/tool cats, but cannot find a replacement.

Please tell me if you know of such.

PS The cutting edges of the device were so worn, I think it quite possible that the hoe began life normal sized, and had been worn down to the diminutive proportions which I had found so helpful.

Posted by: momac (7961)  Report abuse
Priscus,I've just had a look for 'Narrow garden hoes' and I found some on Amazon.

Posted by: priscus (5789) Report abuse
Thanks. I have looked there before, but will certainly take a look again.

Posted by: GOLDEN BEAR (2815)  Report abuse
When is the best time to buy/plant BUDDLEIA also my wife wants to now about a MAGNOLIA i am not that green fingered so would like help .

Posted by: momac (7961)  Report abuse
GB..you can buy or plant Buddleia any time,but look for one that's already showing a couple of flowers so that know it's true colour is..I got one last
year but one,it said on the ticket that it was red..and the photo on the ticket
showed that it was Red but it turned out Purple,however I kept it and the
White one I'd bought planted them together and you wouldn't believe how
many butterflies you get throughout Summer,we were sorry when Autumn
came...ours grew very leggy so I pruned them right down..you can also
grow them in pots..you'll enjoy them.
Magnolias I'm afraid I've never had one,but maybe someone else will see this and help you...I love plants.

Posted by: GOLDEN BEAR (2815)  Report abuse
MOMAC: Cheer's thank you fir that i will sure bear that in mind when we go and buy them.

Posted by: PeterP (5902) Report abuse
Magnolias can be planted out in the garden or in a large pot at this time of year.We were given one about 20 years ago which we planted in the front garden and when ever I drive past our old house I glance to see it and it is lovely when it is in bloom.

Posted by: GOLDEN BEAR (2815)  Report abuse
THANKS PeterP.

Posted by: priscus (5789) Report abuse
My Forsythia finally in bloom today. (Mid March!)

It usually blooms in February.

I do not know why it is so late.

Have about half a dozen of them. Don't think it is a location issue.

Posted by: priscus (5789) Report abuse
Checked out Amazon, yes they have narrow draw hoes and variations upon that theme.

Cannot weed between close planted specimens with those: it will damage the roots.

Did not find any narrow Dutch hoes there though.

Something called a flower hoe listed. Described as narrow, but blade which is heart-shaped, is at its widest portion same as conventional hoe.

Also something called a potato hoe. That is close, is sharp, and is narrow. However, since it is primarily intended for earthing up spuds, blade is directly in line with handle. It would not be easy to skim ground surface to chop weeds, which is what I am looking for in a narrow Dutch hoe.

Think I am going to have to import one from Germany.

Posted by: jo anne (31314)   Report abuse
TV presenter Adam Frost to host workshops at Bents on Sun 2nd Apr - Leigh Journal

Posted by: jo anne (31314)   Report abuse
Wigan Council - Facebook:

The team behind Incredible Edible are holding Potato Day on Thursday 23rd March!

Go along to Wigan Market between 12-3pm or Sunshine House, Scholes at 3pm
and get your potatoes and healthy recipes. You don't need a garden - a tub will do the trick.

Pam Warhurst, founder of Incredible Edible, said: "We want to encourage Wigan residents to cook healthy meals with fresh and locally grown produce."

Speak to Pam about how you can get involved in Incredible Wigan.

Posted by: priscus (5789) Report abuse
Still searching for replacement narrow bladed Dutch hoe, and as a result of Googling, and following a number of links to various garden related web sites, I find that I am not alone. It seems many of us are engaged in this fruitless search!

I wonder how we get to the situation where what users want is one thing, and what manufacturers unload upon them is a totally different thing.

I think that I will call it the Microsoft Syndrome!

Countless replies to queries from gardeners elicit the reply, "Cut one down to size with an angle grinder."

Well, I wish I could. I would be quite happy to do that if I could find one where doing so would not slice through the metal which attaches blade to shaft. ie one needed that does not attach via metal at outer edges of blade width.

Yesterday, I shifted 16 buckets of weeds, and damaged (fatally in most instances) about a dozen plants because hoe blade is too wide for purpose.

Posted by: PeterP (5902) Report abuse
Priscus I think the type of hoe you require is an American Hoe.The blade of this type of Hoe is welded in the middle and therefore can be cut to any width without impacting on the strengthSome for sale on E-Bay.Type in American Garden Hoe

Posted by: priscus (5789) Report abuse
No, they are draw hoes. Adze type action.

For close weeding bowt damaging roots, I am seeking a narrow DUTCH hoe: push hoe that is very sharp, and can skim just under soil surface to cut weed, especially weed seedlings. Failing to cut them, and just dragging them out leaves any that are concealed, able to re-establish their growth in about a day or so.

Posted by: PeterP (5902) Report abuse
Priscus the narrowest blade I could find on E-Bay was 4 inch wide from Bulldog tools

Posted by: priscus (5789) Report abuse
Thanks Peter, I have now been searching for a considerable time. Looking for 2 to 2.5 inch width. I used to have one, but it may well have worn to that size from larger original.

No doubt if one is not to be found, I will eventually find someone to make one for me.

Posted by: momac (7961)  Report abuse
Been to different Garden Centres this AM..set out looking for Clematis even
though it's a bit early to see them at their best..but finished up looking at
Honeysuckle..came home to look on line see which had the nicest
fragrance,Japanese Honeysuckle seemed to be the best scent..does
anyone have any better information on them...thank you.

Posted by: ann-spam (3136)  Report abuse
I cant help you mo but maybe someone will be able to on here

Posted by: momac (7961)  Report abuse
Thanks Anne..Cliff said I'll have to go to Tokyo.

Posted by: mortarmillbill (310) Report abuse
Priscus

Have a look at the Bulldog tools website. They do Dutch hoes with 4", 5" and 6" blades.

Also look at the Paxton hoe - you would have to grind this to size though.

Posted by: PeterP (5902) Report abuse
Momac we have a Japanese Honeysuckle which we grow up against a 6x6 fence panel. You are better getting an ever- green plant then this will mask the fence panel in winter instead of having bare branches.Very easy to keep in check

Posted by: momac (7961)  Report abuse
Thank you Peter..I've always loved Clematis..even though they are bare in Winter..it's the fragrance that I'm after, is it as nice. as they say.

Posted by: PeterP (5902) Report abuse
Momac it is one of the plants that stand out with its very strong scent

Posted by: momac (7961)  Report abuse
Lovely..thank you Peter..I must look out for one .

Posted by: nightchap (285)  Report abuse
Priscus - search for spud/potato hoe. These usually have 5cm wide blades.

Posted by: priscus (5789) Report abuse
Yes, I found one of those, but is inline, rather than offset at angle to handle, which does not facilitate the skimming action of weed chopping with a dutch hoe.

Thanks though, to all who have advised me.

Will either grind down, or make, or have made for me a suitable implement.

(Gerrin owd, so stooping to weed too much strain on back now)

Posted by: priscus (5789) Report abuse
Climbing Strawberry Anybody come across these?

Posted by: priscus (5789) Report abuse
I wonder.....

If like me, you will have potting compost left from last year. then it is tempting to use this now for germinating spring planted seeds.

It will not have the same nutrient content as compost sold specifically for seedlings, and what it does have may to some extent go stale (debatable!).

So what about doctoring the former with some homemade nutrient additives to suit seedlings.

I have decided to try adding a couple of drops of household ammonia to water used to moisten the compost (ie extreme dilute): the ready available nitrogen should meet the greatest need.

And to stir in a small amount of very fine spent coffee grounds( to add P & K).

Using the water which has been used to boil my veg for dinner should supply small quantities of other requisites.

Posted by: lock lass (102) Report abuse
My OH has ground coffee all the time (I have instant) and I always empty the cafetiere onto the bed outside my back door (which has various plants in especially roses) and have done every day for years. They always come up robust and another plant that comes up better than the others in other areas of my garden are the bluebells. I also give my beds a covering of mulch in the Spring. I use Westland Gro-Sure Smart Ground Cover Mulch - 100L bags around 9.00 per bag which lasts me over the growing season and it's good for breaking up clay/heavy soil as well.
Like you priscus, I use the water from boiling my veg in - an old tip from my ex Father in Law in 1967, whether it does any good or not I don't know.

Posted by: PeterP (5902) Report abuse
I built a raised bed last year 8ft x 4ft x 18" and filled it with a mix of soil and peat. I have turned the soil over and started planting a few veg. What I have noticed is there are no worms in the soil. Which is the best way to get worms into the raised bed(this bed is built onto a concrete base),Or do i not need to have any worms in the soil

Posted by: priscus (5789) Report abuse
You can buy Brandling Worms at some fishing shops, or on line.

It is not difficult to find them in the ground (have a Google for list of ways to)

Brandlings are what you get in compost heap, and often considered best for keeping soil in good health.

Whether or not you need them? - Difficult to answer that one. Depends on how well the mix in your raised bed is supplying the nutrients which your plants need. (And some plants drain nutrients much faster than others)

The peat is theoretically rich in nutrients, but other than the black fen-land peat, it takes far too long to break down and release what your plants need.

There is the nutrient content of the added soil, and the peat will make the mix humus-rich. If you are feeding plants, or adding fertiliser, or if you regularly replace mix with soil from garden, then you may find that you do not miss the worms.

Nevertheless, worm compost, ie the excreta of worms eating vegetative waste in the soil, is regarded by many as the finest of all growing media. If you do add worms, you may need to add veg waste to feed them.

With a concrete base, and possibly high acidity due to the peat, and a depth of 18 inches might be subject to extremes of wet/dry, I do not know if that is a comfortable environment for Brandlings.

Posted by: priscus (5789) Report abuse
PS My neighbour, who is a keen angler, can probably answer that one. I will ask him next time that I see him. He seems to have oodles of knowledge when it comes to Brandlings.

Posted by: Pennywise (inactive) Report abuse
Climbing Strawberries - Just get one of these: http://www.flower-tower.co.uk/

And plant normal strawberries in, diverting the runners into the holes.

Posted by: priscus (5789) Report abuse
Have used them, or similar in past. They are not very good. At least not for strawberries.

Although strawberry plants will grow OK in such containers, they do tend to be very, very, poor cropping!

If you must grow strawberries in containers, I have found these got better crop than many alternatives tried.

(Got mine 2 for a quid/ 3 for a quid - clearance at poundshop)

Posted by: priscus (5789) Report abuse
Asked my neighbour about the worms. He does not think think 50% peat will be a comfortable environment, as in natural peat lands (other than Fen type) they are less commonly found.

Posted by: priscus (5789) Report abuse
Trap Planting

The technique of growing particularly vulnerable hosts surrounding your valued plants/crops. Intention being to lure the pests onto such, where they can be destroyed.

Any experience of this, anyone?

Posted by: ann-spam (3136)  Report abuse
any one know were is the best place to get a clemetis or climbing plant please

Posted by: momac (7961)  Report abuse
Hi Ann..Birkacre near Chorley have some beauties there..but in the meantime I'll do you a cutting from mine for next year..a pink..a purple one and a Montana..and hope that they take root for you.

Posted by: PeterP (5902) Report abuse
Pimbo Nurseries have some nice climbers

Posted by: ann-spam (3136)  Report abuse
Thank you momac and Peterp

Posted by: ann-spam (3136)  Report abuse
Dooes anyone have any seeds for planting or is it better to buy flowers .

Posted by: priscus (5789) Report abuse
link

Clematis seed can take up to three years to germinate, so unless you do nor require the plant for about five years, better getting a nursery grown plant.

(You can propagate Clematis from cuttings, and by layering.)

Posted by: priscus (5789) Report abuse
ps I have had some nice Clematis, keenly priced, from Aldi. They seem to do them twice a year, which I guess is spring and late summer. All have grown well.

Varieties I grow are:

Montana sub sp Elizabeth

Another Montana, which I have not identified. (sold to me as Elizabeth, though obviously not.)

Polish Spirit

Warsaw Nike

Hagley Hybrid

Jackmanii

Posted by: dave b (1196)  Report abuse
Had the last strawberries at weekend,had approx 4LB this year from patch, not as good as last year 6LB, the heavy rain and humid conditions means more slugs .
Been very nice though ,very sweet, Royal Cambridge is the variety

 
 
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