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Joyce Out?

Started by: wigvet (3576)

there seems little or no confidence in the 'new chap'

'worst display of the season'.... 'not got a decent striker'... 'clueless' ...and they were just comments in the Anvil - unrest amongst the masses?

how long will he be given?

Started: 25th Feb 2017 at 19:35

Posted by: watchalot (983)

it's not the manager it's the overpaid posers that's to blame they are crap no comment from we are the people thought not both his teams didn't win

Replied: 25th Feb 2017 at 19:41

Posted by: i-spy (15310) 

Latics fans have learned to be patient over the years. What's the point of sacking the manager. If he doesn't save them from the drop he'll bring em back next year

Replied: 25th Feb 2017 at 20:32

Posted by: fedup (260)

Latics have gone from being an awful short passing team to an awful long ball team in a matter of weeks!
Two forward players were played today v Notts Forest but they hardly got a decent pass. None of the midfield players ever took up a decent wide position from which to attack, leaving the defenders no option but to punt a long ball forward in hope! Why did the management not see this and rearrange the team? Then to compound the failures Obertan is brought on- I remember him as a wide and speedy forward- and where does he take up a position? In the middle of the field-I couldn't believe it!
When Latics go down playing appalling football the majority of blame will be the tactics- ie the management! No idea!

Replied: 25th Feb 2017 at 21:26

Posted by: baker boy (15758)

kids today are taught on thing and one thing only, keep the ball,the passing game, bring it out of defence ,predictable and boring.
i'm not sure who exactly assessed the candidates for the tics manager,but at this rate we will be back down,unless a more fluid approach is forthcoming.
there's nothing wrong with a long ball or the passing game it just needs to be mixed up.

Replied: 25th Feb 2017 at 23:19

Posted by: wigvet (3576)

''Warren Joyce admitted he was ‘disappointed’ in the boos that followed his decision to substitute striker Omar Bogle in the closing stages of Wigan Athletic’s 0-0 draw against Nottingham Forest. The lively frontman had been his side’s biggest attacking threat for the majority of a dour encounter at the DW Stadium, but made way for Will Grigg with six minutes remaining of a game Latics desperately needed to win.While Grigg’s presence at pitchside brought initial cheers of approval, it was quickly followed by jeers when the identity of the man to make way was announced. Joyce, though, says he was saving the recent arrival from Grimsby from the risk of a fatigue-related injury''



Replied: 26th Feb 2017 at 09:13
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Posted by: roylew (4147)

Perhaps jay1 can tell us what's needed...he's the expert

Replied: 26th Feb 2017 at 09:26

Posted by: Believer (131)

As much as I hate to say it I really feel that its time for Joyce to go, I know that you can't really keeping changing Managers as its no good for the clubs stability, but it has just not worked out with Joyce, When you think about it even the few wins we have managed to get with him have been "only just" eg Huddersfield (A) 2-1 Brentford (H) 2-1 Wolves (A) 1-0 in 88th min from corner with the Burton away game the exception 2-0 I know the players have to take some responsibility, but its really down to how the Manager coaches the team as to how they play. I think we need to change now if we are to have any chance of staying up, we simply can't afford to drop down to League One again !!

Replied: 26th Feb 2017 at 10:44
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Posted by: roylew (4147)

Only one thing for it...stop the warriors playing at the DWP and you will see latics fly up the league 😜

Replied: 26th Feb 2017 at 11:03

Posted by: Wigan Rover (780)

Can't disagree with any of the comments on this thread . Joyce came with the reputation of bringing through dozens of stars in United's Development/Reserve , Youth Teams etc., but those type of quality youngsters are not at Wigan Athletic , nor never will be . United will have some of the best Development Facilities , Coaches and pay fantastic salaries .... such youngsters will not be coming to Wigan to play on our awful pitch . And so to the here and now , I can't remember watching such awful home performances , with such little excitement in well over fifty years of supporting the club . The team are way too slow at getting forward and are too wasteful when the odd chance does come our way .... cannot blame the supporters that stayed behind to boo them off at Full Time yesterday following such a lacklustre display !

Replied: 26th Feb 2017 at 11:05

Posted by: roylew (4147)

One of the players said in last weeks paper that they are too good a team to go down...then bloody prove it

Replied: 26th Feb 2017 at 11:08

Posted by: Wigan Rover (780)

Roylew , was listening to Wish FM on way to game yesterday and they played an Interview with a Latics player and he said they believe that the team had too much quality and fighting spirit to go down !
None of this was in evidence to me yesterday against a struggling Forest side !

Replied: 26th Feb 2017 at 11:24

Posted by: lisalee (12155) 

My other half has been saying from the moment of his appointment that he was the wrong choice. He's a United fan who has been to watch the u23's play at Leigh Sports Village a few times and came away saying that the performances there were underrated. He even watched Marcus Rashford play for Joyce and didn't rate him at the time. Look at the lad now.

I think he was appointed on a Utd reputation having produced players like Pogba and Rashford, even Powell who I don't rate but the truth of the matter is that these players had a level of star quality before Joyce even got his hands on them.

I think the appointment was a Whelen appointment not a Sharpe appointment because let's face it, he's never let go of the club.

The fans Q and A session on Wednesday night could get interesting...... that's if it happens.

Replied: 26th Feb 2017 at 11:47

Posted by: roylew (4147)

Go for claudio

Replied: 26th Feb 2017 at 12:00

Posted by: i-spy (15310) 

Latics fans can put their questions to the manager on tomorrow's (Monday) football show on Radio Manchester at 6pm.

Replied: 26th Feb 2017 at 13:53

Posted by: Wigan Rover (780)

Thanks for that I-spy , re Radio Manchester , will probably put a couple of questions to him . Joyce talks a good talk to the media , but nothing is being carried through where it matters on the pitch !

Replied: 26th Feb 2017 at 15:57

Posted by: i-spy (15310) 

Should be interesting listening. Phone in number is 0161 228 2255. They ring you back

Replied: 26th Feb 2017 at 16:54

Posted by: tony j (806) 

i was at the game yesterday and i couldn't believe what i saw. notts forest are the worst side to come here in my opinion, yet their keeper didn't have to make one save. i am not blaming the players , but our tactics. we play two strikers which we have been asking for, but what is the point ? the service to them is atrocious. we are now playing with no width. the balls played to our front two are launched diagonally to them, it's meat and drink to defenders.we had two wide men on the bench, he brings obertan on, who is a wide player, takes a striker off and proceeds to play obertan down the middle, what was all that about ??? another thing that bugs me also is when the other team get a corner every player is back defending. a couple of times yesterday our keeper caught the ball off a corner, couldn't release it quick cos no bugger was up the field. there are twelve games to go , and in my opinion we are going down, this manager does not instill any confidence in me at all. i cannot see where our next win is going to come from, he is so negative with his team selection and tactics. i feel sorry for the players, they give their all, but it's round pegs in square holes, they can only play to the managers insructions, and for me there is only one conclusion.

Replied: 26th Feb 2017 at 18:09

Posted by: lectriclegs (5712)

Maybe they could get some tips off this lot

Replied: 26th Feb 2017 at 18:28

Posted by: Wigan Rover (780)

lectriclegs

Replied: 26th Feb 2017 at 19:02

Posted by: Believer (131)

That video is so funny

Replied: 26th Feb 2017 at 19:05

Posted by: roylew (4147)

Any bets that he will go by the end of the week...someone has to come and motivate the players and play wide men...but who is out there for that type of job...and wage

Replied: 26th Feb 2017 at 21:05

Posted by: fossil (7728)

Now we need wide men after he has put up the two strikers everybody wanted!
Problem not solved yet then.
Tony J,I trust your judgement,Joyce seems to make strange decisions,but the lack of a creative midfielder has been killing us all season imo.

Replied: 26th Feb 2017 at 22:07

Posted by: roylew (4147)

Watch how my beloved Huddersfield play....they may not go up...but my god they are good to watch....to be honest going up would only be short term probably...and costly in the long term

Replied: 26th Feb 2017 at 22:57

Posted by: jarvo (30270) 

Give them a chance. It's a very poor league this year. We hammered a very physical Brum side and still lost.

The difference between a team like Leeds to Wigan is marginal.

Get behind um!

Replied: 27th Feb 2017 at 05:34

Posted by: aussie94 (2397)

Well I hope it turns AROUND FOR THR lATICS

Replied: 27th Feb 2017 at 06:46

Posted by: jarvo (30270) 

Anyone can beat anyone. Newcastle are currently running at the top, but they are an average side with little flair and they may yet falter at the final hurdle.

Watch for a dark horse side coming up at the end.

Watch Preston, they are a capable unit.

Replied: 27th Feb 2017 at 11:22
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Posted by: jarvo (30270) 

...And in Tom Clarke, they have a future PL defender.

Replied: 27th Feb 2017 at 11:24

Posted by: peawapp (5107) 

everyone can beat Wolves

Replied: 27th Feb 2017 at 12:07

Posted by: i-spy (15310) 

No-show by the boss on radio Manchester and he's pulled out of fans forum on Wednesday 'for medical reasons '.

Replied: 27th Feb 2017 at 18:19

Posted by: Wigan Rover (780)

Few home truths spoken on Radio Manchester tonight . Very disappointing that Mr Joyce was not there to face the fans frustrations ,or at the forthcoming Fans Forum on Wednesday , although to be fair ,it has been re scheduled in March , if he is still with us of course !

Replied: 27th Feb 2017 at 19:03

Posted by: trevwafc (1491) 

Come on don't speculate if the guy his ill wish him well, don't like his tactics Or playing players out of position but his welfare is more important get well soon

Replied: 27th Feb 2017 at 21:30

Posted by: i-spy (15310) 

I hope he gets well soon. The same goes for the supporters who have been feeling under the weather too.
The boss needs to be fighting fit for the Blackburn game.

Replied: 27th Feb 2017 at 23:15

Posted by: Believer (131)

Of course if is a genuine reason we all wish him well, but I personally believe that this was an excuse, after the way that we performed on Saturday he knew that he would not get the best of receptions by the fans either on the Radio or at the Forum on Wednesday, so they have rescheduled both events for the end of march in the hope that our results will have improved

Replied: 28th Feb 2017 at 07:46

Posted by: Wigan Rover (780)

Just to clarify , I wrote , " if he is still with us " under the context of him still being Latics Manager , come the end of March . If Mr Joyce is ill , we of course wish him a full and speedy recovery .

Replied: 28th Feb 2017 at 07:51

Posted by: aussie94 (2397)

Oh dear ,Oh dear , Oh dear

Replied: 28th Feb 2017 at 09:25

Posted by: basil brush (20159)

we deserve to get relegated, no fight in the the dog. no commitment.

I see "Mr popular" aka, I will support latics no matter where they end up, Jay, hasn't had much to say, pathetic individual.

Replied: 2nd Mar 2017 at 10:51

Posted by: jay_1 (14715) 

Walshy's replacement is in today. More multi posting...

Replied: 2nd Mar 2017 at 13:31

Posted by: basil brush (20159)

still nothing to say about the mighty tics.

Replied: 2nd Mar 2017 at 14:16

Posted by: watchalot (983)

he didn't have time to say anything about the mighty tics he has been busy at pancake parties they needed a proper tosser

Replied: 2nd Mar 2017 at 14:25
Last edited by watchalot: 3rd Mar 2017 at 18:01:43

Posted by: basil brush (20159)

Hahahaha

Replied: 2nd Mar 2017 at 14:28

Posted by: basil brush (20159)

I should imagine he's a good tosser

Replied: 3rd Mar 2017 at 08:41

Posted by: wigvet (3576)

I wish him a full recovery

Statement reads: “Warren underwent surgery on Tuesday for a minor procedure which needed immediate attention.At this stage, uncless he chooses to talk about it we feel it’s right to keep the details confidential. He is recovering well and won’t be taking training today. At the moment, the plan is for him to come to the game tomorrow but we don’t know yet what exactly his involvement will be - that depends upon him.

Replied: 3rd Mar 2017 at 11:46

Posted by: jay_1 (14715) 

Nice to hear from a decent poster, wigvet. Watchalot and Walsh are on their final warnings again.

Replied: 3rd Mar 2017 at 12:00

Posted by: basil brush (20159)

out to say about the tics, "Mr popular"

Replied: 3rd Mar 2017 at 12:39

Posted by: baker boy (15758)

walshy gives another opinion on another subject he his ignorant about,never been out the bar o the norley when it was open.

Replied: 3rd Mar 2017 at 13:44

Posted by: i-spy (15310) 

Glad to hear the manager is back on his feet. Hopefully he will only come back when he's good and ready.

Replied: 3rd Mar 2017 at 13:55

Posted by: baker boy (15758)

perhaps the stress of managing a proper league side is too much for him.
i personally was very surprised by his appointment.dont wait till where down to make changes sharpy.

Replied: 4th Mar 2017 at 20:56

Posted by: tom cros (119) 

Get a grip. 3 managers in one season is ridiculous. Give the bloke a chance. Perhaps the problem lies elsewhere ?

Replied: 5th Mar 2017 at 07:18

Posted by: fossil (7728)

I agree with tom cros.,give him time.
A new manager is brought in ,and it should have been with his own crew,
It probably should be Barrow and some of the backroom boys that should go,and let Joyce do it totally his way!
The current back room boys have been there since the prem days,and I think it is time for new faces with new ideas.

Replied: 5th Mar 2017 at 10:01

Posted by: roylew (4147)

That was a real 6 pointer against Blackburn....nilled again...it was a massive risk with Joyce under the circumstances of no first team management....totally different than nurching young players

Replied: 5th Mar 2017 at 11:02

Posted by: fordie (725)

Joyce player manager at Hull city, and 2 years at Royal Antwerp.

Replied: 5th Mar 2017 at 12:38

Posted by: roylew (4147)

Interesting...thanks fordie

Replied: 5th Mar 2017 at 15:17

Posted by: wigvet (3576)

the lads in the anvil were right then....hes gone

''Results and performances have simply not been up to standard often enough in recent matches''

Replied: 13th Mar 2017 at 12:11

Posted by: fossil (7728)

I still haven't changed my opinion,Joyce should have brought his own team in!
Barrow has been with Coyle,Rosler,Caldwell and Joyce,and I know he is a tic through and through,but so are the supporters and they don't get paid either!
The common denominator of all the regimes has been Barrow,I wish him luck but he should have gone before Joyce came.
And the scouting team should be criticised as well,some of the recent signings seem to be here for an easy ride.

Replied: 13th Mar 2017 at 14:35

Posted by: broady (inactive)

Barrow reminds me of Clemence in the England set up. Manages to see off lots of managers but hangs on.

Replied: 13th Mar 2017 at 14:39

Posted by: GOLDEN BEAR (6780) 

Has WIGAN ATHLETIC got money to burn? They sign this Joyce guy for 3 and a half year contract, =42 months sack him after 6 months are left paying him 36 months for nowt! Now will someone tell me is that how to run a business?
Just look at who they might have bought?

Replied: 15th Mar 2017 at 03:23

Posted by: chatty (9774)

The guy "running the business" struggled to run a chip shop, maybe more to do with it than who gets appointed manager?

Replied: 15th Mar 2017 at 07:02
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Posted by: basil brush (20159)

still no comment off "Mr popular"

Replied: 15th Mar 2017 at 08:35

 

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