fellaini

fellaini is a liabilty in the utd side.
its a mystery to me how he keeps his place.when you look at the terrific midfield players in the utd midfield in recent years he dosnt come close .
he isnt a utd player .time for jose to sharpen the axe.

What do WWer's think about Rooney at present?? IMO not worth a place in the side on current form.

broady be careful what you say you may get bullied or is that only me..

What was that saying you was using all last week?

Got it;
let it go lad.

would rooney or fellaini get in the city side?

so not giving broady the crap you gave me then chatty?

Without wanting to repeat myself.

Let it go lad.

It will just make you ill.

i could,nt agree with grimshaw more & iv,e never seen rooney play as bad as he is right now.

regarding rooney.
hes been a prem league player now for 15 years and i m o hes just about burned out.
gone are the days when he could float past the best defenders in this country and in europe .
whups is spot on, he isnt half the player he was .
mind you,ive watched utd for over 60 years and im struggling to recall a worse mid field than we have at present.
were is the great roy keane when we need him

grimshaw:/broady:

Wayne rooney is a spent force this goes back to the spat he had with fergie when chelsea were supposedly sniffing around him. The plain facts are very clear to see he is overwieght his ability to get into scoring positions has completely failed him these day's.

Similar with the England post the time he score's these day's are mainly from the spot!I would like to name someone in my view was at O/T that was ROY KEANE i am trying to draw similarities with the two. Of the two ROY KEANE is my man rooney will not achieve his level of midfield leadership as i say mu view! Now for the GIRAFFE Fellaini This guy should have never been at O/T that was down to MOYES, Staffbullterrier::: My reply to you is this these two would not have been employed as ball boys across the blue half ,i think my previous comments answer you, As for JOSE he is in a tricky position i think he has lost some of his mojo,after being out of work for a while my tip to him would be this January OFFLOAD ROONEY AND FELLAINI today they are not UNITED player's, my last comment is this i feel strongly about this and it's UNITED should have bought JOE HART would have been a good buy ! How's that to get you going !hahoha!

joe hart.joe f.rt more likely.
another player on borrowed time as an england player .

his gaffs in the recent euro comp was an embarrasment.

when i think back to all the terrific midfield players who have been at o t it makes me wince when i see the likes of fellaini.

ince .robson .keane ,scholes .and include eric in that if you like .he played as an advanced midfielder when tactics dictated

grimshaw do you think herera should be in the team ? .

in flashes he displays real class whups.
but i m o he needs a sustained run in the side .therein lies the problem at present.
jose dosnt seem to know what tactics to adopt with the current crop .
we need an iconic player in mid field like roy keane .a big wigan warriors fan i understand .but the likes of roy dont grow on trees ..best signing fergie ever made i m o

grimshaw, If you've watched united for 60 years it shouldn't be that hard to recall a worse midfield than present.

staff, Asking if Rooney and Fellaini would get in the City side is a moot point parlour game.
It's all about moulding a team, how many Leicester players would you have put in the City team this time last year yet they won the League by 10 points!

i take your point chatty.
im trying to think of a worse midfield than the present one .perhaps you know one
do you think city players put it all in last season..?.given it was the euro finals i think more than one or two had eyes on that and didnt want to miss out through injury .

i reckon leicester won the title because they caught out a lot of teams by the fitness and enthusiasm and not least by the tinker man..different story this season thats for sure ..

There is still no answer to this problem and although we won the title in Fergies last season the centre field was starting to raise its ugly head way back then and sad to say we still have the same problem. Viewed Liecester v Chelsea last night for me it was same old so-so chelsea were crap first half , what impressed with liecester was their energy in first 45 they seemed to be fit chasing ,harassing and accurate passing then my mind was jolted forward to this Saturday at O/T. 12.00 MIDDAY when we must try and stop it being 3 league games on the trot loss.
city/watford/?? I will be glued to sky on Saturday .

eric gemba gemba & klebson come to mind guys. herera played all the game l/nite & scored ? .

good points g b and whups .
herera should start on saturday .

thought he did well last nite but northampton are a different kettle of fish to recent opposition .

will rooney start on saturday .
methinks not .

Hello Grimshaw, Again after watching him (rooney) last night i'm afraid to say there was nothing from him that gave me any hope,thrill,expectation he looks lost so if i had a choice he would be left out against Liecester i have no idea how Jose works with one to one ,but i'd sit him down have a damn good discussion with and give him a month if there is no improvement then it would be Sayonara in January .

hello g b.
rooney did look lost.
perhaps trying too hard .

i have a pal who gets to know some stuff coming out of carrington and im told jose does work one to one if needed so perhaps he will or has done with rooney .

do you think rooney would play in the premiership with another side .?.

i left a message for you on the main forum on my coal post .

after the demolition of leicester today i think i rest my case for herrera to be in the starting line up .

spot on whups.
no fellaini either .
much more fluidity in midfield dont you think without fellaini.pogba had is best game yet


and i did notice that the midfield often got in front of the front two in attack..

i always said from day 1 that fellini was,nt a united player.i also think pogba will play better with herrera & carrick in the team.

Fa Cup quarter final away at West ham Fellaini scores the winner.

FA Cup semi final Fellaini scores the opening goal. Late on in the game makes the tackle that stops Everton taking the lead.

FA Cup Final makes the equalizer for Mata.

United win the cup with the help of Fellaini. FACT

Gets paid £90,000 a week by United. All of the above are included in his job description so he was only doing what he is paid for.

All of the above are included in his job description so he was only doing what he is paid for.

Excellent.

Have you seen his job description wideboy?

Why the need to get personal?? If you don't want people to reply to your posts don't post them. Now tidy up your shell suit and get back to driving that mobile rubbish skip around town.

fireplace.

so your saying fellaini should be first name on the team sheet then .

your having a laugh .

just what united dont need at present is a pedestrian midfield .according to jose thats why rooney didnt start,and fellaini

sorry fp but you already know my feelings on fellani.stop making excuses for him.

if my memory serves me right did,nt you castigate jessie lingard . who scored the winner ? . i,m sure i saw you jumping up & down behind the goals f/p.grimshaws right f/p & if saturday was,nt enough proof for you then i dont know what is ? .you can pick anyone in that team & say they contributed to a win , because they won ? .

whups.

Just negative comments all the time about Fellaini from you. Not excuses they are facts that i have just posted.

Lingard would not get a game at Wolves and they are a bad team.

So you are saying one swallow makes a summer.

Wideboy you could not fit in my buggy. Dont get personal.

you know my feelings on this f/p. i back you on quite a lot of things but i cant on fellini. if you could,nt see it on saturday then i,m afraid you will never see it. f/p lingard is a local lad & his goal won the cup ? . why are you so against him when he came through the ranks at united & support a load of belgian rubbish instead 1 of our own ? .i just cant get my head around it ? .

I think that once everyone is injury free then both Fellaini and Lingard will only be squad players. There is the guy with the long name to come back yet. I think he is Armenian or similar.

Lingard subbed again.

Enought said.

You must be getting used to watching two bad sides fireplace

pity you did,nt watch the phone in after fp . red hot with complaints about fellaini & how useless & ineffective he is. 1 guy said that it,s about time united played with 11 men instead of 10 & put a player in mid-field ? .

spot on whups.
fellaini is an embarrassment as a utd player.

slow and lumbering, no invention ,watch the body language of the other players .tells you all you need to know.

Yes a phone in from people who have not been to the game.

No mention of Lingard whups.

You seem to think that, because he came through the ranks that he can play.

The Premier League stats show Fellaini to be the third best United player. Average marks 7.47 out of ten.

A lot of armchair fans on here who only see what they want to.

In other words a pass mark of 75%.

Fellaini playr for Belgium one of the best International teams in the world.

Give the lad a break and stop looking for his mistakes.

If he had played against west Ham when United lost 3-2, we would have been in the Champions League now.

be honest f/p you were an "armchair" fan when you did,nt go to games because you were playing football when others who are on here were going to the games ? .belgium only look good on paper & failed to deliver in the euros.i think fellaini has a higher pass rate than that in passing square & back.

No need for that whups. My first game was in 1959.

Still went to more games than most.

Soton away on a Wednesday night Ipswich on a Tuesday night.

Colchester on a Wednesday in 1979.

What is your record?

How long since you last went.

By the way I see Lingard was subbed again. I rest my case about him.

So who r you going to call today?

1962/63 season missed 5 games. not bad for a 12 year old.

sorry f/p but you cant castigate people who are now "armchair" fans who for their own reasons cant go When you have done the same can you.just because they dont go dosent mean they know nothing about football. and good players dont make good pundits or managers.

There are people on here have only ever been "armchair fans".

Some have not been for over 20 years but still think they are fans.

What reasons are those whups?

How come you have not mentioned your "Favourite" being subbed again?

Because a player came through the ran ks does not make him a GOOD PLAYER.

i agree with what you say that because a player comes through the ranks it dosnt make him a good player F P .

BUT what it does do is teach him good habits irrespective of his playing ability.

you can spot an x utd player over a ploughed field..

I agree with you grimshaw. The league is littered with ex United players.

All making a good living.

yes it is F P .

AND not only in the u k..bet in europe and the states there are many x utd players .

what do you think of keane the burnley centre back who utd gave away for a song and who now chelsea want badly enough to offer burnley 20 mill for him ..

grimshaw he got the young player of the year a few years back . he was in front of his brother & other forwards & mid fielders. dont know why they did,nt keep him ? .

had a good game v arsenal yesterday whups.

we seem to discard p d q without giving time .

pique springs to mind as someone we didnt persevere with but perhaps more to it than we know .

who would you have as englands manager whups.?

Fireplace seems well qualified. By all accounts an outstanding player in the Warrington leaguet.

Thank you Broady.
The Warrington League beat the Wigan league 7-1 in the Inter League final at Springfield Park in 1967. Wigan had a good team. EG. Franny Calter Brent Atherton Paul Roby. i will post the programe for you Broady.



They did not keep him because Evans, Smalling, Jones and Rojo were in front of him.

LVG was fair to the player and let him move on.

f p .

didnt sir alex of fergie let pique move on..?

he moved before l v g came to o t

Young players slipping through the net happens quite often at all clubs. Frank Stapleton had trials at United in the mid 70s and he ended up coming back as a big money signing later.
Apparently Gary Mc Allister was a massive United fan and went down to be looked at as a youngster then came back to Old Trafford later with Leeds and Liverpool amongst others.
David Platt is a well known example who went on to become England captain.
Fergie wrote a lovely letter to Pique when he was leaving saying he would end up coming back one day and haunting him, did he!!!
Having said that I saw him in one game for United we were getting bombarded in the air and he couldn't seem to handle it, he then goes back to Barca were the ball is on the floor most of the time and he looked a world beater, (horses for courses I suppose).

chatty dont forget peater beardsley & shaun goater were at untide too. pique got homesick & his girlfriend was in spain , but he also got broke in twice by the very guys that put his cable tv in.

Beardsley of course whups, watched him play half a League cup game and thought it would be a formality that Atkinson would keep him.

and of course savage r .

having said that perhaps giving him the elbow was a wise move .

good point about pique chatty

Pique played for the first team at Bolton and got murdered in the air.