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The Nevilles...
Started by: jarvo (27696)  Report abuse
You cannot escape them: G.Neville on Sky, and P.Neville on the BBC.

G.Neville takes delight in slamming Man Utd and their players, 24/7...What's up with him? He's the most bitter man on TV, and particularly against his former employers.

P.Neville? Just excruciatingly bad on radio...'Orrible buggers both of um.

How on earth did these two journeymen manage to get full England caps in the first place?

Yuk!

Posted by: laughing gravy (2526) Report abuse
i'l tell you why jarvo its not if there good enough but if you sign for trafford you get picked to play fpr england as the manger gets brown envelopes

Posted by: broady (12646)   Report abuse
Seems as though the know all of football is spot on again ( I refer to playing careers only) Just for the record I think Scholes and Keane are bigger critics of United on air.


Neville holds or co-holds a number of England records:
When he came on as a substitute against Italy at Leeds in 2002, he earned his 51st cap, breaking the record for a right back held previously by Phil Neal
His 11 appearances for England in the European Championship finals (over three tournaments) is a record
With his brother Phil, the Nevilles hold the record of England's most capped brothers, with 142 appearances between them. It was Phil's appearance as a substitute against Israel in 2007, a game for which Gary was injured, which broke a record they had jointly held with Jack and Bobby Charlton
The Nevilles hold outright the record for the most appearances in the same England team by a pair of brothers with 31, although the 31st in 2007 came a whole seven years after the 30th

I think Gary had a total of 85 caps under five different England Managers ( but what would they know)

PS Have you managed that arduous trek to Wolverhampton yet this season (or last)

Posted by: jarvo (27696)  Report abuse
I was referring to their personalities, actually.

Their 'feats' playing and winning nothing for England is neither here or there, although I included it at the end as an afterthought.

Both players were incredibly overrated...But so were others including that Geordie dunce, Chris Waddle...And why wasn't he sacked (for good) after missing that penalty?

Incidently, Waddle does appear on Five Live - and he's worse than Neville.

Posted by: broady (12646)   Report abuse
"How on earth did these two journeymen manage to get full England caps in the first place?"

What is the above then?? Seems to be more about playing ability than personality.

Posted by: jarvo (27696)  Report abuse
Have you got an opinion on the Nevilles as pundits?

If not, stop your cheap attempt at point scoring.

Posted by: broady (12646)   Report abuse
None. But I did have an opinion on them as “ two journeymen” which was in your original post. Sorry if my opinion doesn’t concur with yours. This weekend I watched three games ( a record for me) and listened Jim Beglin ( enjoyable) and Townsend ( tosser) I also to Kevin Kilbane who I think played for the Latics at one time. Robbie Earle summaries on US TV. Hope that meets your approval.

Posted by: jarvo (27696)  Report abuse
...It's like comparing P.Neville with Johnny Haynes...Or G.Neville with George Cohen...

NO CONTEST!

Why don't they open a grocery chain? They've stolen enough money over the years.

Posted by: broady (12646)   Report abuse
Meds not kicked in yet!! Or maybe I need some. Don’t understand what you are on about.

Posted by: jarvo (27696)  Report abuse
Dunce...

Posted by: broady (12646)   Report abuse
If you say so. I shall merely BRUSH off your SWEEPING comments.

PS. Been to Wolves yet this or last season??

Posted by: bridger (46) Report abuse
...Hic...

Posted by: Platty (39) Report abuse
G Neville has a house near my son in Bromley Cross. We go walkies round Jumbles reservoir when we visit, which is weekly. There is a footpath at the side of his house, on his property, which has been made uninviting. We use that footpath and overcome all the obstacles, including the nice new wooden electronic gate he has installed at the top. He has made various planning permissions, all been accepted, but to the plebs would not have had a second look. I wonder how many brown envelopes he keeps for the planning department he has.

Posted by: fireplace6899 (10576)  Report abuse
You want to get a life Jarvo.

Why not talk about the lad who got killed, when Derek Dougan was driving.

















Posted by: grimshaw (714)  Report abuse
Platty.

Surely if you are concerned about the possible misuse of brown envelopes you can easily write to the local authority or indeed write to Gary neville and ask the question you have posed on here.

Posted by: jarvo (27696)  Report abuse
The Nevilles were never any good as footballers, and mediocre comes to mind.

As football pundits, they are partial, inconsiderate, and unprofessional.

Graeme Souness puts them both to shame.

Posted by: fireplace6899 (10576)  Report abuse
Answer the posting about Derek Dougan

Posted by: grimshaw (714)  Report abuse
Never any good as footballers.

Trophies to many to mention playing for the record breaking most successful team in english football history under Sir Alex of Fergie and England caps GALORE between them and you have the audacity to say they were never good as footballers.

Pray disclose the times you saw them play LIVE .

I would wager never.

Posted by: broady (12646)   Report abuse
grimshaw, See my comments earlier in the week. At that stage he said he wasn't being critical of their playing careers which he certainly was. As a betting man you will remember Freddie Head the jockey. Well he is his brother Richard.

Posted by: grimshaw (714)  Report abuse
Broady.

Yes i do recall Freddie Head.

And your spot on .

Whats the betting he wont answer my question regarding the nevilles .?.

Posted by: jarvo (27696)  Report abuse
I've seen George Cohen, Ray Wilson, Nobby Stiles, and the true class of Johnny Haynes...

The Nevilles couldn't polish their boots.

Posted by: grimshaw (714)  Report abuse
SO .

Just answer my question .

And ive seen all the players you mention and hundreds more top class ones.i can name them if you like.it is a very long list

SO answer my question and change the habit of a lifetime.

Posted by: fireplace6899 (10576)  Report abuse
Two words Derek Dougan.

Posted by: jarvo (27696)  Report abuse
It's fairly obvious that with Wolves being in the second tier, my live encounters with the Nevilles has been limited. But that's not the point.

Don't change the subject. The original point was their appalling pundit performances. Their playing careers (IMO) don't hold a candle to the three players that I have just mentioned.

Stop trying to point score, G...you're getting to be like Bill.

Posted by: grimshaw (714)  Report abuse
Your original post asked how two journeymen players re the Nevilles had been capped for England .

All you know about the nevilles is from T V viewing so your argument is fatuous .

And regarding their merits as pundits they are good I M O.

Gary is widely recognised as such even by your favourite one namely Graham Souness .



Posted by: jarvo (27696)  Report abuse
It wasn't. It was their performances as pundits.

Posted by: bridger (46) Report abuse
How on earth did these two journeymen manage to get full England caps in the first place?

What has that got to do with their ability as pundits?

Posted by: jarvo (27696)  Report abuse
...Read my post, Peter Osgood.

Posted by: lectriclegs (2813) Report abuse
Jarvis squirming again.

Posted by: jarvo (27696)  Report abuse
...Hi, Mac...

Or is it Bernard?

Or Danni?

Or...

Posted by: lectriclegs (2813) Report abuse
The old standby, eh jarvis?

Posted by: grimshaw (714)  Report abuse
Noticeable that he hasnt answered the question from fireplace .

He will just fudge it as normal.

Posted by: lectriclegs (2813) Report abuse
I think most people on here have the measure of him.

Posted by: broady (12646)   Report abuse
But don’t forget he has watched Johnny Haynes!!! just reading about Johnny Haynes and he never played for England after 1962 following a serious motor accident at Blackpool. He was out for over a season with his injuries. By all accounts he sadly never achieved the level he was before the accident. Whilst the age of Jarvo is something of a mystery I reckon he was around nine at the time of the accident so I think it unlikely he ever saw him at the top of his form.

Posted by: grimshaw (714)  Report abuse
Well spotted broady .

Posted by: jarvo (27696)  Report abuse
For the record, I saw Johnny Haynes play at Molineux in December 1967. Wolves won the game 3-2, but Johnny ran it. His vision and distribution were outstanding; and he was getting on by then. He gave Mike Bailey and Peter Knowles an afternoon they wouldn't forget in a hurry..

The great Pele said of him: "He's the best passer of the ball I've ever seen"

I'll second that.

Posted by: bridger (46) Report abuse
I'm sure you'll be able to post up something that confirms it?

Posted by: stacker lee (268) Report abuse
He's probably talking about Arthur Haynes!!

Posted by: broady (12646)   Report abuse
So as a 13/14 year old you watched a 33 year old, who most acknowledged was never the same after his accident, who was playing in a team that were relegated that season and you decided his " vision and distribution were outstanding" Remarkable understanding of the game for one so young!!! I never had the pleasure of watching Johnny Haynes at his peak but if Pele said that about him that is good enough for me.

Posted by: fordie (649) Report abuse
broady were much brighter this side of Wiggin.

Posted by: broady (12646)   Report abuse
Sorry. Completely forgot about that.

Posted by: jarvo (27696)  Report abuse
I saw Johhny Haynes in a charity match in Blackpool, about 1964-65.

I went with my older brother who was a great Stanley Matthews fan. Matthews actually played as well.

Johnny Haynes was memorable again that day, and he scored a great goal from twenty yards out.



Posted by: fireplace6899 (10576)  Report abuse
Did Derek Dougan play in the charity match?

Posted by: fordie (649) Report abuse
I saw him play a few times, last time at Bolton and if my memory not playing tricks, Fulham played in green shirts. He was a great player.He also was the first 100£ a week player. Made a bob or two advertising brylcreem after the great Denis Compton.

Posted by: grimshaw (714)  Report abuse
Saw him at anfield playing for england under twenty three team.

That would be in 57 i think.or possible in 56

Bobby Charlton was injured after being selected ,

He came into the car park in a vauxhall car and stood for ages signing autographs ,

Stuck in my memory .

Posted by: broady (12646)   Report abuse
Fordie,
Would I be correct in saying Tommy Trinder was chairman at Fulham when Johnny Haynes got the £100pw???

Posted by: fordie (649) Report abuse
broady

 
 
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