I remember olivers pie shop at newtown.. made great pies...... and lovely gravy... wish they wus still there.

what about teds snack bar on ormskirk rd end of soho st saturday night coming home from wigan with a skin full
beans on meat potato pie brown sauce for a shilling

Marrons Knowsley road beech hill

undoubtedly home made

Edward's still mek a bluddy gud meyt pie - I like um cowd , wi' plenty snot on!

winnards of gidlow lane 1950 onwards, a great shop with great staff.

Baileys ,top of wigan

Edwards meat pie on a warm (Lurpak) buttered barm with HP brown sauce, mmmm

Edward's still mek a bluddy gud meyt pie - I like um cowd , wi' plenty snot on!

do they not do books on english

Jack Harrison made good pies and cakes you had to order them his wife was Eva Lee. Manchester Rd Ince

I was merely writing as I speak , Walshy - in the local strain of Lancashire dialect. There's nothing wrong with acting daft , mate ...as long as you ARE acting!

i still think mi mam made best pies,sadly passed away nowalthough there wuz a pie shop at bottom of Liverpool rd in Ashton very close to catholic club think it wr Boardmans meet n prater wr beltin

Macandlish at the top of Wigan without a doubt for me made the best pies, soup and barm cakes in the 60's. I can taste them now ah ah

nothing wrong with acting daft , mate ...as long as you ARE acting

Jack Shaap at the top of Ladies Lane Hindley.

Cain's in Belle Green Lane, Ince, (later became Ashursts).

I agree with Susie Q. McCandlish's. I remember them at the top of Darlington Street, before they moved to Market Place, but they were second to none. Then there were Schofield's in Darlington Street as well. Deeelish. If you went for pies and took your own jug, they'd fill it deeelish gravy for you as well!

My nan!
She made a delicious, meat and kidney pie.
But my favourite! Her home-made apple pie. Has never been beaten. It was the 'proper kind', chunks of apple inside, not this sloppy sickly-sweet syrup.
May be it was something to do with Darlington St.
My nan lived on Darlington Street East, near the old railway yard.

Another gud un was, Jimmy Evans on the corner of Church Street and Ince Green Lane, sadly long gone, but his pies were the best I ever tasted, and I include Cains(Ashursts) in that group.

have to agree with aitch ashurts pies were good then go across to sarah lynns for a cream horse shoe cake mmmmmmmmmmmmm

Who made the best Boiled Egg Breakfast in Blackpool?

I don't know but i knew who made the best Knickerbocker glories in Blackpool.

Who made the best Boiled Egg Breakfast in Blackpool?

there's always one

Who gave the best Sandwich Deal in Dover?

Earl's!

Who makes the best babbies yed in wigin...(steak and kidney puddins to all the none wiginers) lol.... ..? were gerrin silly now...

My brother in law.

Who gave the best Sandwich Deal in Dover

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Walshy , instead of making negative , snide remarks , why don't you contribute something yourself - or are you one of those critics that can't take it back?

I've got the original Poole's Pies meyt pie recipe if anybody wants it! The secret was, they used hot water pastry, not short-crust which they're made of now! In fact, if Dave Whelan had any brains, he'd have kept the original recipe, kept the Wallgate cafe open with a bit of refurbishment, and opened other shops in Wigan and district, instead of limiting the outlets to Asda, and Morrison's, I think, two shops I never go in.

Whenever I came home from abroad one of the first stops I made was Poole's in Wallgate opposite the station! Sitting in one of those little cubicles with the horse-stable effect and stained glass windows, oil cloth on the floor and old-fashioned ambience was very special.

buzzcock


do you think a comment about sandwhiches on a "who made the best pies in wigan" thread is positive

or are you supposed to be acting again

Mi nan

the best pie shop was winnards at park road wigan

walshy - yer comments are always about previous comments , never the subject of the thread. Let the subject meander as it will - it'll still be more interesting than yer whinging. Love and Peace.

Mollie,
That's great, but do you have the recipe for meat and potato as well? That was the classic Poole's pie for me, along with the 'specials'.

never the subject of the thread.

do you think a post about sandwiches on a "who made the best pies in wigan" thread is classed as the subject of the thread. NO ITS NOT


who made the best pies in wigan" thread is about pies NOT SANDWICHES

so stop your whinging and read the thread proper

Are you suggesting that my sandwich statements are paradoxically oxymoronic?


Would a Sandwich Dealt in Dover be cut triangular?

(if this is not correct, press 1 on your keypad)

With a crispy side salad in Scholes.

....and yet , Walshy , despite several ( all negative ) comments from you on the "best pie " thread , you have offered no opinion on the subject , just the short-comings of other contributors . No doubt your favourite pies are like your opinions , mate - half-baked! Love and Peace

Posted by: jackdog (182)
Mollie,
That's great, but do you have the recipe for meat and potato as well? That was the classic Poole's pie for me, along with the 'specials'.


Sorry chuck, no I haven't. Only meyt pie recipe.

and yet , Walshy , despite several ( all negative ) comments from you on the "best pie " thread , you have offered no opinion on the subject , just the short-comings of other contributors . No doubt your favourite pies are like your opinions , mate - half-baked! Love and Peace

there negative comments about people who dont understand the thread

i have not replied because a thread like this was on the general forum a couple of weeks ago

but if it stops you crying i will say what i said on the main forum which is village bakery up pem used to do the best pies

so there buzcock

now satisfied will you stop crying and chucking your toys out of your pram ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

please

Ok

Best pies..........Olivers, Newtown.

Hairy Pies anyone?

I make the best pies, ask my other half

Ah., but yeah, but no, because you're not in Wigan you're in Abram yeah! Right?

I also think that, Whittles pie shop (top of tunstall lane its now a galloways.) their meyt n spud were delicious, we used to go to the side door at 7 in the morn, for our daily rations of meyt n spud. the steak wus very good as well. R.I.P. whittles pies....lol. .

there meat and potato were good to especially with the extra cig ash

mayburys whelley now gone and what about voses they were the best long ago

maybury's in Whelley like alan lad says,absolutely brilliant and always a whopping queue at lunch time,whelley was in mourning when they shut

Maybury's in Whelley....I'll third that!
Never yet tasted a pie that came near it.

And as a bonus, my mum used to work there...back of the net!!!

What did they have a net in Maybury's for?

A net??? Don't remember that Tonker.
Where was it?

I don't know, I never went there. But you should know where it was if your mum used to work at the back of it?

Boll*cks!!
You've got me racking my brain now!
Anything before 2009 is very vague!

How do you know they had a net if you never went?

Everyone loved the baker though.
He had a massive flan-base.

"How do you know they had a net if you never went?"

I never went and I know about it.

wss that the one before Gathurst Rd down side street on right hand side,if so tom, they were good

Brian, are you telling us that you were never aware of the net?

Dustaf and myself are only going off what we've been told!

I was 15 at the time.
I'm lucky if I can remember back to last week without a prompt!
Some things just don't stick in your head.

We only heard about the net very recently Brian.

My mother used to wear earrings with little mince pies on when she worked there.

Now that's pioneering stuff.

And the net?

Eeeeeeeh., I'm not one to gossip, but that Dolly Earnshaw tells me what goes on in them Anderson shelters when it's 'lights out', and you know that Ena Maybury? well she hasn't washed her nets in a three-week!

I have just discovered the answer to this bewildering and extremely profound question!


It was that guy on the road to the fair that simon spoke to.


SIMPLE!

I HAVE TO SAY GALLOWAYS IM AFRAID.
Theres plenty other shops but its galloways for me.

It HAS to be Galloways, because Galloways are the only pie makers in Wigan. All the others are made elsewhere and sold in Wigan outlets.

lol Tonks, aye I am in Abram, but they'd walk it from wigan for one of my pies!

Must be honnest!... Its got 2 be galloways for me at the mo... their mince steak are luvly..?

the best pies were made by a lady called mrs howarth her shop was just past duke street at goose green the pies were great and the gravy she made was greaaaaaat

Rathbones in the 70's in their canteen.We were contract plumbers at the time and dinner was something to look forward to, especially with Maggies gravy...

CAINS, (LATER ASHURTS)IN INCE.

Tonker: Galloways are not the only pie makers in Wigan.

Rollin Pin Bakery at Newtown is in Wigan.

Sorry Jackdog, the Rolling Pin bakery is definately in Pemberton, not in Wigan!

Oh not it's not. Definitely. (Not definately).
Unless your're talking about the 'township' of Wigan, an outdated concept which now has only limited relevance in some very rarified legalistic aspects of life today and which was based on the former 'parish' boundaries. That would be a bit pedantic, eh?
I'm talking about every other parameter: closeness to the town centre, postal address, common usage,etc.etc. etc.
And what 'people' generally understand and mean by 'Wigan', which is the most important factor in communicating an idea.
Everybody except you knows that Galloways is in Beech Hill, and Rollin Pin is in Newtown, and both of them are in Wigan.
And Galloways pies are rotten, while Rollin Pin's are delicious.

Tonker you are a boundary Pervert

Tonks, there is always the Muffin Man on Park Road, now that is Wigan, and i know they make their stuff there because I can ruddy hear em banging and clattering at 5 in the morning!! So NER!!!! (and I worked there when i was a teenaged sprog!)

I'm not a boundary 'pervert', I'm a boundary 'bounder'!

Jackdog, there's nothing 'pedantic' about it. It's simply a matter of separating places from local authorities.

Here's how to do it ...

Imagine there's no council (it isn't hard to do). No 'parish', 'borough', 'registration area', 'diocese' etc.. In fact, nothing only places, and each place has a start, and a finish, and a name.
Now, Pemberton, Ince, Standish and Aspull are all places, all marked individually and given names. They've not changed for over 900 years.
Wigan is the bit left in the middle of them.

In your mind, and a lot of other people's, a place changes with the council. No, it doesn't.

As it stands, the Rolling Pin Bakery is in Pemberton.
It's as much in Wigan as it is in Hindley, ie: not at all.

However, bringing 'council' back into it, Pemberton, Hindley and Wigan are all in Wigan's 'borough'.

And, all the churches in Wigan are under Liverpool. Which means that, if you were christened in a church in Wigan, you're a Scouser!

Tee-Hee

and the Muffin Man??.....

He was arrested, the deviant!

It's just that when Tonks said Galloways is the only pie maker IN Wigan he's gone quiet on it since i mentioned the Muffin Man....

Arrested for 'Muffin the Mule'?

Well, nicola, I don't know all the little places that make their own stuff.

Nicola: But what if the Muffin Man was christened in Wigan though? He would be a Scouser...

Tonker / John Lennon: I am always imagining there's no council. Councils have nothing to do with it. But there were pie bakers all over Wigan 900 years ago. And Greenhalgh's shops bake their own pies, don't they? In Wigan. It depends what you mean by bake or make, I suppose. Anyway, I made a pie last week, so I'm a pie maker and I'm definitely (definately) in Wigan. So bake that.

Right you are then Sir!

Google Maps thinks everywhere in Wigan is in Pemberton. Have you hacked into their systems, Tonker?

But no, Jackdog. Not everywhere in Wigan 'borough' is under Liverpool. Some parts of it are under Blackburn, others under Manchester.
However, regardless of any other town in the same borough, 'Wigan' is under Liverpool!

mayburys steak and kidney was to good to be true and i did eat all their pies meat and potato only as good as most other peoples situated in a side street between whelley road and northuberland st now possibly edwards in platt bridge but tonker may not approve as it not part of wigan but they have a stall in,t market

i used to love moss'es pies when i worked in ashton, but these days greenhalls take some beating.

cains pies bell green lane hr ince and laces somewhere along near primark wigan

Pastry? with meat and gravy in it?...What's all that about?

I may have hit upon a new punchline, Where's that number to the comedians TV show?

I remember working at the Telephone Exchange in 60's early 70's and the pies we used to love were Bailey's (who I think were from Union Bridge) and the best of all Pooles's their meat pies were to die for. Later on after Poole's had closed down I remember being able to buy Poole's in Standish. I have long since moved South -what happened to Bailey's an Poole's?

I used to love Sarah Lynn's chicken & mushroom pies - and their cream cakes were to die for!

I always make my own pies, with ruff-puff pastry - my kids used to leave the crust till last cause "it's the best part" and my son would snatch my daughter's crust off her plate and shove it in his mouth. So she ate with 2 forks, one to eat with and the other to hold the crust down on her plate

brenda m could nt u just keep em at opposite ends of the table out of arms length

Got to be Laces down Standishgate....

...only coz I used to work there!!!

They've got very long arms, Micky - very long!

andy farrells dad worked at laces a smashing lad,
peter was his name.andy and his sister came to
the shop every saturday dinner to meet peter.

Linneys that used to be on Chapel Lane, they were great pies, and i think tonker would agree, definately located in Wigan!

LACES WE WORKED THE SLAUGHTERHOUSE BEHIND. J&J FORSTERS. AND WE LIVED OF LACES PIES.WE ALWAYS GOT SERVED STRAIGHT AWAY ...COS WE STUNK AND WERE COVERED IN BLOO. GOOD THEM PIES..

Why are Galloways so expensive in Wigan? In Bury they are doing 2 pies for £1.30, in Wigan they charge £1.30 each.

Why are Galloways so expensive in Wigan? In Bury they are doing 2 pies for £1.30, in Wigan they charge £1.30 each.

Why has this posting duplicated? I only posted once.
Anyway, while i'm on, it's not just pies, cakes too.

my grandma.

My Missis

Here in sunny Spain I have a choice of pea and onion; spinach;
or tomato and courgette pasties. That´s it ! Right now I´d happily manage any type of decent pie from Wigan.Wiy or bout gravy.

Greggs did tomato & cougette pasties for a while, didn't catch on. If you're ever in Sent Ellins (spit), try Sammy Leiveslys pies, I think Sammys gone now but his family still has the shop, behind the Theatre Royal. Steak pies (rich gravy) proper messy, and good big old fashioned sausage rolls.

Yum !

Erie Jones (Abram) made beltin' meat pies and his custards were devine!!!

Another place where the pies were good was the UCP in Wigan, mum used to take me some Saturdays as a treat.

U.C.P. Babies yeds were good to.

edwards in the market hall are good but a man has be able
to see them pick the pie up,if you can't you may end up
with a burnt offering.women are better shoppers than men
they tend to look at the pie.

Sellars in Billinge Rd made good pies

Does anyone remember Hansfords in Lorne St Scholes Just off Schofield lane ? well they did the best pies their meat and potato was to die for .Sadly the old ladies retired or passed away and so did their recipes for the greatest pies i ever had.

Does anyone remember Sara Lynn pies and cakes. There was a shop in Market Place Wigan I think it was where Hampsons is now. Their pies were really tasty and their cakes were so.....................good. This Company disappeared all of a sudden, does anyone know why? I was told one of my teachers in the 1960's was engaged to the son of family who owned Sara Lynn at one point.

The Nissan garage in Pottery Rd used to be Sarah Lynnes bakery

Dodger do you know why they stopped trading because their shops were always full of customers?

I've no idea kathwal, but I remember the bakery being in Pottery Rd before Nissan moved in.

what about marsdens in wallcate great meat and potato

grimshaws meat pies, on the lights at bryn (r.i.p. john grimshaw)

yes, the old bakehouse pies were to die for. We used to go up on Saturday morning with empty coffee jar for the gravy and 5 meat and potato pies, plus fruit tarts for afters - yum yum. I also remember the fantastic Pooles cafe at Wallgate - devine.

gillian,your memory is playing tricks on you.the best pies
by far was laces in standishgate.
WELLCOME TO WIGAN WORLD GILLIAN HORROCKs.

the best pies in Wigan were Voses in Standishgate.

Twiss's bakery on the canal bridge mmmmmm

maybury,s in whelley made the best steak and kidney pies i have ever eaten,but the others were only run of the mill

Taditional pasties are good 2 for a pound at the pound bakery

Laces, I worked at Forster's slaughterhouse on Water Street and we supplied the meat for their pies, they were great . . depending on what we put in the mince!!!!!!!
:-)

Does anyone remember Sarah Lynns meat and potato pies and cakes? They were so good, the shops were opened in the 1960's and lasted I think until the 1970's, so sad they shut as the shops were always full of customers - can't understand it.

I worked at Sara Lynns bakery in pottery rd back in the early 80s... good times... and whittles pie shop top of tunstall lane... (now Galloways)...they were luvley pies.. specially their meat and spud... happy days.

McCandlishes, in the 50's/60's..Nowt could beat 'em..

cozzer45 Do you know why sara Lynns closed.

I dont know Cindy.. but ille try and find out for you.. leave it with me..!

I always thpught Barons in the Market hall 50/60's more so with the jelly on top and again more and more so on a Friday I used to drool for one

Olivers pie shop (commonly known as Burts) were in my opinion the "Best in Britain". They were only available 3 days a week if I remember correctly (Tues, Fri, Sat) but the long queues and very long wait was testimony to the quality. If you took along a jar he would give you some of the finest gravy known to man. Apologies for waxing lyrically but as you can see from my name the memories live on

I have to agree with cozzer45 ........Whittles pie shop (top of Tunstall lane - now a galloways.) tata & tata we used to call them cos there was hardly any meat in them to call them meat and potato - but they were gorgeous and I remember growing up on them as a treat - Thanks Harry (along with chippy tea on a Friday)...... nowadays it has to be Galloways chunky steak - but you need two MMMmmmmm gorgeous!

pooles!...i used ter ger em in leigh

Bailies pie shop was in Mesnes St, were Smiths book shop is OR was, What about UCP they also had great pies, at the corner of what used to be British Home Stores,We had lots of good pie shops in Wigan,even tho I make my own,you can t beat a good shop pie, its like eating chips out of paper taste much better

bailies in mesnes street were very good also their cakes ,pat bailey forget her dads name now , as the galloways shops .cant say they are as good as her dads .my mum worked at baileys , george bailey was her boss .my aunty was the head confectionary . trifles you could die for ,

I don't like trifle!

Linneys in Chapel Lane and my auntie Elsie Kenyons who lived in Bridge St.

best of the current crop has to be meat and potato from The Rolling Pin

not a decent meat and potato pie to be had in wigan,

all burnt to a frazzle with re-heating.

Mollie. I would love the pooles pie recipe if you still have it? Ive been trying to recreate these excellent pies for ages with no real success!

ecmdj,
George Bailie WAS Tricia's (Pat's) father. He was the owner of Bailies Scotch Bakery Wigan, His Brother Tommy had a similar shop in Lancaster, Dalton Square in fact. (Wherein lies another tale of Ghastly MURDER) But that's another story. Tricia, as I knew her, was George's youngest, he had two older children but both went into farming. Tricia was the only one to continue with the Bakehouse after her marriage to Galloway

I am only here today because of George and Netty Bailie, but that, as they say, is another story

Weatherwax, I dont remember a bakery shop in Dalton Sq, where would it have been.
By murder do you mean Ruxton? My dentist used to be in that building. Creepy

Best pie in Wigan had to be Voses A long time back I think it was on Standishgate

"Red stains on the carpet
Red stains on your knife,
Oh Dr Buck Ruxton, you cut up your wife;
The nursemaid, she saw you, and threatened to tell-
So, Dr Buck Ruxton, you killed her as well.

Spot on! erontquay, If I remember correctly, the square consisted of three sides with a green in front. The Ruxton house was on the centre at the back of the green, and Tommy Bailies was on the left set of buildings. This was in 1935 when my Mother was working for Tommy, They all knew the Doctor and his wife Bella. In fact it was more Family that cleared the house once the case was over. Woof Jackson and a young apprentice went One winter evening, the stairs had been removed, (evidence) and a step ladder was in it's place.
They made their way up to the top floor, when suddenly the electricity failed, Woof walked into the top room and walked to the window, only to see the apprentice legging it across the grass and road. Woof said he must have slid down the ladder to get out so fast

weatherwax,yes it was george ,senior moment at forgetting ,seeing my mum allways spoke of him

Can I ask, When, was your Mum at Bailies?

gosh,better get my thinking cap on ,1 was at school so say in the fifties ,my aunty jenny moss was the confectioner .my mums name was evelyn may davies ,but got called may ,she was in the bakehouse

I am working between two threads here, as erontquay has started another thread connected to all this, on Handbags which I suppose is really where it should be now.
The names you mention ,do strike a chord. My Mother came to work at Bailies soon after they opened, that would be about 1939. George kept writing to her, Saying "can ye no come down Gwen, as I canna understand these Wigan Lassies" She eventually gave in and came down to take over the bakehouse. She met my Father, who was working for Conroys at the time, (their storage was at the back of Bailies).I was born in 1950. In between, George's wife had died and he eventually married Mary who also worked in the bakehouse, as did my Aunt by marriage, Jenny Ollerton.
After my birth my mother helped out when it was busy, I spent many happy hours in the bakehouse and restaurant Kitchens, While she was Icing the wedding cakes etc. and I am sure I remember those names.

Sarah Lynns pies were really good, I remember these when I was a teenager. There were a number of shops and then suddenly they all closed. I recall a teacher of mine went out with one of the sons many years ago. Sarah Lynns cakes especially the blackcurrant tarts with cream were really delicious.

Another good pie shop was Ernie Jones in Abram. I've not seen any write up on this bakers and his confectionery was really good. Both his meat and potato and his custard tarts were the best I have ever tasted. The custard was naturally coloured filling,and good textured pastry tasted just right. Not the over compensated yellow coloured filling you can buy. My dad would always say if mum was going to get pies for tea, I'd rather have those from Ernie Jones - they're good.


Passed the shop about 12 months ago and bought a pie and custard - they still taste just as good as when I was little.

Many years ago, I used to buy Edward's blackcurrant tarts with their own cream topping (almost 50 years ago) and their large tin loaves. I remember being sent for a large tin loaf on a number of occasions and getting in bother when I returned home with the crusty top half missing as I'd eaten this on the way home - it was that good. Their vanilla slices were lovely and the puff pastry was really good.

Townofmemories I agree the bake house in Orrell, two largish ladies who looked like they had worked hard all morning baking, created lovely pies and you could take a container and they would give you some gravy....I can taste them now

process used to live down broxton avenue ,mr coterill had the old bakehouse, any pies left over they would go to clubs , his pies especially meat and potatoe wi tomato sauce on deliciious

I'm surprised nobody's mentioned Tudor's which was on Bridge Street, Hindley, for many years.[All right, I know Hindley isn't Wigan!] They used to bring their meat and potato and meat pies up from the basement on huge wooden trays, and the smell from the bakery downstairs was something to treasure! They also made the best barm cakes I've ever tasted. I used to go there every Saturday morning and bring pies and barm cakes back for all the family. It was the one errand I didn't mind doing! In fact, my mouth is watering just from the memory!

Tudors meat and potato pies were the best I have ever tasted,full of chunky pieces.Used to buy them then go into Raynor park to eat them.They were always piping hot.

Pooles Pies are a Liverpool concept. And that's true that is!

that is some gap in replies.

No wonder they are sh1te then

I KNOW THIS IS CORNY BUT THE BEST PIE MAKER GOES TO
MY MOTHER!

What does she do for him?

I thought that this had all been sorted, and the best pie shop in Wigan was in Pepper Lane,at Standish. Although some say that the best pie shop in Wigan is in Tyldsley!

When I 'wur a lad' (65+ years ago) there was ago small row of stone cottages near Hall Green in UpHo
land. One of those cottages was a bake house. I recall going there for meat and potato pies, always took a small jug which they filled with gravy - YUM YUM

Voses. Galloways are nice though

I noticed the Rolling Pin bakery building, IN PEMBERTON, is up for sale!

I have Been to Pepper Lane Bakery today lovely pie and cake the Lady said they have been there for 70 years .

ann-spam: Aren't they stale?

No Platty they arent stale .

Jean Morris's shop, Worsely Green, Pemberton.

Yogi brought them in a van. They were made at Hughes' Bakery.

About 1960-1970

Also, the Village Pie Shop on Ormskirk Road, when Marrie served.

Broxton Ave in Orrell, near to the Stag Inn...

...Closed ages ago, Fred. It is now a pizza parlour.

Late home today, and I fell asleep over a cup of tea!
So, now I've woke up again, I've made a couple of pies.
Holland's, one steak and one minced beef and onion, 55p each from Tescoses.
And a few chips!