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Who made the best pies in wigan....?
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Started by: cozzer45 (136) |
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I remember olivers pie shop at newtown.. made great pies...... and lovely gravy... wish they wus still there.
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Posted by: billface (17)  |
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what about teds snack bar on ormskirk rd end of soho st saturday night coming home from wigan with a skin full
beans on meat potato pie brown sauce for a shilling
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Posted by: mache (inactive) |
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Posted by: buzzcox (126) |
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Edward's still mek a bluddy gud meyt pie - I like um cowd , wi' plenty snot on!
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Posted by: ststephens97 (inactive) |
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Edwards meat pie on a warm (Lurpak) buttered barm with HP brown sauce, mmmm
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Posted by: walshy76 (inactive) |
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Edward's still mek a bluddy gud meyt pie - I like um cowd , wi' plenty snot on!
do they not do books on english
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Posted by: buzzcox (126) |
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I was merely writing as I speak , Walshy - in the local strain of Lancashire dialect. There's nothing wrong with acting daft , mate ...as long as you ARE acting!
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Posted by: mickey (73) |
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Jack Shaap at the top of Ladies Lane Hindley.
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Posted by: ianp. (488)   |
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My nan! 
She made a delicious, meat and kidney pie.
But my favourite! Her home-made apple pie. Has never been beaten. It was the 'proper kind', chunks of apple inside, not this sloppy sickly-sweet syrup.
May be it was something to do with Darlington St. 
My nan lived on Darlington Street East, near the old railway yard. 
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Posted by: walshy76 (inactive) |
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Who made the best Boiled Egg Breakfast in Blackpool?
there's always one
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Posted by: walshy76 (inactive) |
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Who gave the best Sandwich Deal in Dover
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Posted by: buzzcox (126) |
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Walshy , instead of making negative , snide remarks , why don't you contribute something yourself - or are you one of those critics that can't take it back?
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Posted by: mollie m (6241)   |
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I've got the original Poole's Pies meyt pie recipe if anybody wants it! The secret was, they used hot water pastry, not short-crust which they're made of now! In fact, if Dave Whelan had any brains, he'd have kept the original recipe, kept the Wallgate cafe open with a bit of refurbishment, and opened other shops in Wigan and district, instead of limiting the outlets to Asda, and Morrison's, I think, two shops I never go in.
Whenever I came home from abroad one of the first stops I made was Poole's in Wallgate opposite the station! Sitting in one of those little cubicles with the horse-stable effect and stained glass windows, oil cloth on the floor and old-fashioned ambience was very special. 
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Posted by: walshy76 (inactive) |
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buzzcock
do you think a comment about sandwhiches on a "who made the best pies in wigan" thread is positive
or are you supposed to be acting again
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Posted by: buzzcox (126) |
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walshy - yer comments are always about previous comments , never the subject of the thread. Let the subject meander as it will - it'll still be more interesting than yer whinging. Love and Peace.
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Posted by: jackdog (572) |
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Mollie,
That's great, but do you have the recipe for meat and potato as well? That was the classic Poole's pie for me, along with the 'specials'.
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Posted by: walshy76 (inactive) |
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never the subject of the thread.
do you think a post about sandwiches on a "who made the best pies in wigan" thread is classed as the subject of the thread. NO ITS NOT
who made the best pies in wigan" thread is about pies NOT SANDWICHES
so stop your whinging and read the thread proper
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Posted by: the_gwim_weaper (inactive) |
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With a crispy side salad in Scholes.
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Posted by: buzzcox (126) |
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....and yet , Walshy , despite several ( all negative ) comments from you on the "best pie " thread , you have offered no opinion on the subject , just the short-comings of other contributors . No doubt your favourite pies are like your opinions , mate - half-baked! Love and Peace
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Posted by: mollie m (6241)   |
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Posted by: jackdog (182)
Mollie,
That's great, but do you have the recipe for meat and potato as well? That was the classic Poole's pie for me, along with the 'specials'.
Sorry chuck, no I haven't. Only meyt pie recipe.
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Posted by: walshy76 (inactive) |
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and yet , Walshy , despite several ( all negative ) comments from you on the "best pie " thread , you have offered no opinion on the subject , just the short-comings of other contributors . No doubt your favourite pies are like your opinions , mate - half-baked! Love and Peace
there negative comments about people who dont understand the thread
i have not replied because a thread like this was on the general forum a couple of weeks ago
but if it stops you crying i will say what i said on the main forum which is village bakery up pem used to do the best pies
so there buzcock
now satisfied will you stop crying and chucking your toys out of your pram ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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Posted by: walshy76 (inactive) |
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Posted by: walshy76 (inactive) |
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there meat and potato were good to especially with the extra cig ash
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Posted by: alan lad (441) |
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mayburys whelley now gone and what about voses they were the best long ago
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Posted by: upthetims (6505) |
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maybury's in Whelley like alan lad says,absolutely brilliant and always a whopping queue at lunch time,whelley was in mourning when they shut
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Posted by: brian j (586)   |
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Boll*cks!!
You've got me racking my brain now!
Anything before 2009 is very vague!
How do you know they had a net if you never went?
Everyone loved the baker though.
He had a massive flan-base. 
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Posted by: dustaf (inactive) |
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"How do you know they had a net if you never went?"
I never went and I know about it. 
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Posted by: upthetims (6505) |
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wss that the one before Gathurst Rd down side street on right hand side,if so tom, they were good
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Posted by: brian j (586)   |
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I was 15 at the time.
I'm lucky if I can remember back to last week without a prompt! 
Some things just don't stick in your head.
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Posted by: dustaf (inactive) |
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Posted by: melodyman (107) |
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I have just discovered the answer to this bewildering and extremely profound question!
It was that guy on the road to the fair that simon spoke to.
SIMPLE! 
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Posted by: mrmoto (29) |
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I HAVE TO SAY GALLOWAYS IM AFRAID.
Theres plenty other shops but its galloways for me.
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Posted by: cozzer45 (136) |
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Must be honnest!... Its got 2 be galloways for me at the mo... their mince steak are luvly..?
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Posted by: jackdog (572) |
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Tonker: Galloways are not the only pie makers in Wigan.
Rollin Pin Bakery at Newtown is in Wigan.
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Posted by: jackdog (572) |
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Oh not it's not. Definitely. (Not definately).
Unless your're talking about the 'township' of Wigan, an outdated concept which now has only limited relevance in some very rarified legalistic aspects of life today and which was based on the former 'parish' boundaries. That would be a bit pedantic, eh?
I'm talking about every other parameter: closeness to the town centre, postal address, common usage,etc.etc. etc.
And what 'people' generally understand and mean by 'Wigan', which is the most important factor in communicating an idea.
Everybody except you knows that Galloways is in Beech Hill, and Rollin Pin is in Newtown, and both of them are in Wigan.
And Galloways pies are rotten, while Rollin Pin's are delicious.
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Posted by: tonker (19683)   |
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I'm not a boundary 'pervert', I'm a boundary 'bounder'!
Jackdog, there's nothing 'pedantic' about it. It's simply a matter of separating places from local authorities.
Here's how to do it ...
Imagine there's no council (it isn't hard to do). No 'parish', 'borough', 'registration area', 'diocese' etc.. In fact, nothing only places, and each place has a start, and a finish, and a name.
Now, Pemberton, Ince, Standish and Aspull are all places, all marked individually and given names. They've not changed for over 900 years.
Wigan is the bit left in the middle of them.
In your mind, and a lot of other people's, a place changes with the council. No, it doesn't.
As it stands, the Rolling Pin Bakery is in Pemberton.
It's as much in Wigan as it is in Hindley, ie: not at all.
However, bringing 'council' back into it, Pemberton, Hindley and Wigan are all in Wigan's 'borough'.
And, all the churches in Wigan are under Liverpool. Which means that, if you were christened in a church in Wigan, you're a Scouser!
Tee-Hee 
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Posted by: the_gwim_weaper (inactive) |
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He was arrested, the deviant!
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Posted by: jackdog (572) |
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Nicola: But what if the Muffin Man was christened in Wigan though? He would be a Scouser...
Tonker / John Lennon: I am always imagining there's no council. Councils have nothing to do with it. But there were pie bakers all over Wigan 900 years ago. And Greenhalgh's shops bake their own pies, don't they? In Wigan. It depends what you mean by bake or make, I suppose. Anyway, I made a pie last week, so I'm a pie maker and I'm definitely (definately) in Wigan. So bake that.
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Posted by: jackdog (572) |
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Google Maps thinks everywhere in Wigan is in Pemberton. Have you hacked into their systems, Tonker?
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Posted by: micky east (inactive) |
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mayburys steak and kidney was to good to be true and i did eat all their pies meat and potato only as good as most other peoples situated in a side street between whelley road and northuberland st now possibly edwards in platt bridge but tonker may not approve as it not part of wigan but they have a stall in,t market
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Posted by: the_gwim_weaper (inactive) |
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Pastry? with meat and gravy in it?...What's all that about?
I may have hit upon a new punchline, Where's that number to the comedians TV show?
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Posted by: micky east (inactive) |
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brenda m could nt u just keep em at opposite ends of the table out of arms length
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Posted by: elmos (2731)   |
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andy farrells dad worked at laces a smashing lad,
peter was his name.andy and his sister came to
the shop every saturday dinner to meet peter.
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Posted by: kenee (2009) |
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Why are Galloways so expensive in Wigan? In Bury they are doing 2 pies for £1.30, in Wigan they charge £1.30 each.
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Posted by: kenee (2009) |
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Why are Galloways so expensive in Wigan? In Bury they are doing 2 pies for £1.30, in Wigan they charge £1.30 each.
Why has this posting duplicated? I only posted once.
Anyway, while i'm on, it's not just pies, cakes too.
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Posted by: stevemul (402) |
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Here in sunny Spain I have a choice of pea and onion; spinach;
or tomato and courgette pasties. That´s it ! Right now I´d happily manage any type of decent pie from Wigan.Wiy or bout gravy.
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Posted by: kenee (2009) |
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Greggs did tomato & cougette pasties for a while, didn't catch on. If you're ever in Sent Ellins (spit), try Sammy Leiveslys pies, I think Sammys gone now but his family still has the shop, behind the Theatre Royal. Steak pies (rich gravy) proper messy, and good big old fashioned sausage rolls.
Yum !
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Posted by: kathhwal (398) |
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Erie Jones (Abram) made beltin' meat pies and his custards were devine!!!
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Posted by: kathhwal (398) |
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Another place where the pies were good was the UCP in Wigan, mum used to take me some Saturdays as a treat.
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Posted by: elmos (2731)   |
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edwards in the market hall are good but a man has be able
to see them pick the pie up,if you can't you may end up
with a burnt offering.women are better shoppers than men
they tend to look at the pie.
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Posted by: dodger (3414) |
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Sellars in Billinge Rd made good pies
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Posted by: ellen45 (inactive) |
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Does anyone remember Hansfords in Lorne St Scholes Just off Schofield lane ? well they did the best pies their meat and potato was to die for .Sadly the old ladies retired or passed away and so did their recipes for the greatest pies i ever had.
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Posted by: kathhwal (398) |
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Does anyone remember Sara Lynn pies and cakes. There was a shop in Market Place Wigan I think it was where Hampsons is now. Their pies were really tasty and their cakes were so.....................good. This Company disappeared all of a sudden, does anyone know why? I was told one of my teachers in the 1960's was engaged to the son of family who owned Sara Lynn at one point.
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Posted by: dodger (3414) |
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The Nissan garage in Pottery Rd used to be Sarah Lynnes bakery
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Posted by: kathhwal (398) |
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Dodger do you know why they stopped trading because their shops were always full of customers?
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Posted by: dodger (3414) |
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I've no idea kathwal, but I remember the bakery being in Pottery Rd before Nissan moved in.
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Posted by: saintpat (786) |
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what about marsdens in wallcate great meat and potato
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Posted by: gillian horrocks (1) |
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yes, the old bakehouse pies were to die for. We used to go up on Saturday morning with empty coffee jar for the gravy and 5 meat and potato pies, plus fruit tarts for afters - yum yum. I also remember the fantastic Pooles cafe at Wallgate - devine.
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Posted by: elmos (2731)   |
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gillian,your memory is playing tricks on you.the best pies
by far was laces in standishgate.
WELLCOME TO WIGAN WORLD GILLIAN HORROCKs. 
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Posted by: dodger (3414) |
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the best pies in Wigan were Voses in Standishgate.
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Posted by: micky east (inactive) |
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maybury,s in whelley made the best steak and kidney pies i have ever eaten,but the others were only run of the mill
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Posted by: ameasey (2) |
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Laces, I worked at Forster's slaughterhouse on Water Street and we supplied the meat for their pies, they were great . . depending on what we put in the mince!!!!!!!
:-)
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Posted by: kathhwal (398) |
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Does anyone remember Sarah Lynns meat and potato pies and cakes? They were so good, the shops were opened in the 1960's and lasted I think until the 1970's, so sad they shut as the shops were always full of customers - can't understand it.
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Posted by: cozzer45 (136) |
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I worked at Sara Lynns bakery in pottery rd back in the early 80s... good times... and whittles pie shop top of tunstall lane... (now Galloways)...they were luvley pies.. specially their meat and spud... happy days.
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Posted by: cozzer45 (136) |
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I dont know Cindy.. but ille try and find out for you.. leave it with me..!
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Posted by: burtspieeater (71) |
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Olivers pie shop (commonly known as Burts) were in my opinion the "Best in Britain". They were only available 3 days a week if I remember correctly (Tues, Fri, Sat) but the long queues and very long wait was testimony to the quality. If you took along a jar he would give you some of the finest gravy known to man. Apologies for waxing lyrically but as you can see from my name the memories live on
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Posted by: nannysodoff (390) |
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pooles!...i used ter ger em in leigh
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Posted by: lilyun (61) |
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Bailies pie shop was in Mesnes St, were Smiths book shop is OR was, What about UCP they also had great pies, at the corner of what used to be British Home Stores,We had lots of good pie shops in Wigan,even tho I make my own,you can t beat a good shop pie, its like eating chips out of paper taste much better
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Posted by: noknok (99) |
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Linneys in Chapel Lane and my auntie Elsie Kenyons who lived in Bridge St.
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Posted by: Weatherwax (313) |
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ecmdj,
George Bailie WAS Tricia's (Pat's) father. He was the owner of Bailies Scotch Bakery Wigan, His Brother Tommy had a similar shop in Lancaster, Dalton Square in fact. (Wherein lies another tale of Ghastly MURDER) But that's another story. Tricia, as I knew her, was George's youngest, he had two older children but both went into farming. Tricia was the only one to continue with the Bakehouse after her marriage to Galloway
I am only here today because of George and Netty Bailie, but that, as they say, is another story 
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Posted by: erontquay (inactive) |
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Weatherwax, I dont remember a bakery shop in Dalton Sq, where would it have been.
By murder do you mean Ruxton? My dentist used to be in that building. Creepy
Best pie in Wigan had to be Voses A long time back I think it was on Standishgate
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Posted by: Weatherwax (313) |
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"Red stains on the carpet
Red stains on your knife,
Oh Dr Buck Ruxton, you cut up your wife;
The nursemaid, she saw you, and threatened to tell-
So, Dr Buck Ruxton, you killed her as well.
Spot on! erontquay, If I remember correctly, the square consisted of three sides with a green in front. The Ruxton house was on the centre at the back of the green, and Tommy Bailies was on the left set of buildings. This was in 1935 when my Mother was working for Tommy, They all knew the Doctor and his wife Bella. In fact it was more Family that cleared the house once the case was over. Woof Jackson and a young apprentice went One winter evening, the stairs had been removed, (evidence) and a step ladder was in it's place.
They made their way up to the top floor, when suddenly the electricity failed, Woof walked into the top room and walked to the window, only to see the apprentice legging it across the grass and road. Woof said he must have slid down the ladder to get out so fast 
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Posted by: Weatherwax (313) |
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I am working between two threads here, as erontquay has started another thread connected to all this, on Handbags which I suppose is really where it should be now.
The names you mention ,do strike a chord. My Mother came to work at Bailies soon after they opened, that would be about 1939. George kept writing to her, Saying "can ye no come down Gwen, as I canna understand these Wigan Lassies"  She eventually gave in and came down to take over the bakehouse. She met my Father, who was working for Conroys at the time, (their storage was at the back of Bailies).I was born in 1950. In between, George's wife had died and he eventually married Mary who also worked in the bakehouse, as did my Aunt by marriage, Jenny Ollerton.
After my birth my mother helped out when it was busy, I spent many happy hours in the bakehouse and restaurant Kitchens, While she was Icing the wedding cakes etc. and I am sure I remember those names. 
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Posted by: kathhwal (398) |
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Sarah Lynns pies were really good, I remember these when I was a teenager. There were a number of shops and then suddenly they all closed. I recall a teacher of mine went out with one of the sons many years ago. Sarah Lynns cakes especially the blackcurrant tarts with cream were really delicious.
Another good pie shop was Ernie Jones in Abram. I've not seen any write up on this bakers and his confectionery was really good. Both his meat and potato and his custard tarts were the best I have ever tasted. The custard was naturally coloured filling,and good textured pastry tasted just right. Not the over compensated yellow coloured filling you can buy. My dad would always say if mum was going to get pies for tea, I'd rather have those from Ernie Jones - they're good.
Passed the shop about 12 months ago and bought a pie and custard - they still taste just as good as when I was little.
Many years ago, I used to buy Edward's blackcurrant tarts with their own cream topping (almost 50 years ago) and their large tin loaves. I remember being sent for a large tin loaf on a number of occasions and getting in bother when I returned home with the crusty top half missing as I'd eaten this on the way home - it was that good. Their vanilla slices were lovely and the puff pastry was really good.
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Posted by: process (1535) |
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Townofmemories I agree the bake house in Orrell, two largish ladies who looked like they had worked hard all morning baking, created lovely pies and you could take a container and they would give you some gravy....I can taste them now
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Posted by: gideonfel (297) |
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I'm surprised nobody's mentioned Tudor's which was on Bridge Street, Hindley, for many years.[All right, I know Hindley isn't Wigan!] They used to bring their meat and potato and meat pies up from the basement on huge wooden trays, and the smell from the bakery downstairs was something to treasure! They also made the best barm cakes I've ever tasted. I used to go there every Saturday morning and bring pies and barm cakes back for all the family. It was the one errand I didn't mind doing! In fact, my mouth is watering just from the memory!
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Posted by: retep1949 (443) |
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Tudors meat and potato pies were the best I have ever tasted,full of chunky pieces.Used to buy them then go into Raynor park to eat them.They were always piping hot.
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Posted by: GOLDEN BEAR (3040)   |
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I KNOW THIS IS CORNY BUT THE BEST PIE MAKER GOES TO
MY MOTHER!
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Posted by: tuddy (959) |
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I thought that this had all been sorted, and the best pie shop in Wigan was in Pepper Lane,at Standish. Although some say that the best pie shop in Wigan is in Tyldsley!
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Posted by: dennis dickinson (1131) |
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When I 'wur a lad' (65+ years ago) there was ago small row of stone cottages near Hall Green in UpHo
land. One of those cottages was a bake house. I recall going there for meat and potato pies, always took a small jug which they filled with gravy - YUM YUM
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Posted by: Platty (127) |
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ann-spam: Aren't they stale?
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Posted by: jarvo (28868)   |
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Jean Morris's shop, Worsely Green, Pemberton.
Yogi brought them in a van. They were made at Hughes' Bakery.
About 1960-1970
Also, the Village Pie Shop on Ormskirk Road, when Marrie served.

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Posted by: tonker (19683)   |
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Late home today, and I fell asleep over a cup of tea!
So, now I've woke up again, I've made a couple of pies.
Holland's, one steak and one minced beef and onion, 55p each from Tescoses.
And a few chips! 
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Posted by: jarvo (28868)   |
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Oh, I forgot Garlands in Pemberton.
About 1965.
Fab.

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