Could anyone with a subscription to findmypast look up the baptism of a WILLIAM BALDWIN, christened 1814 in PRESTON CANDOVER, HAMPSHIRE, for me (well, not really for me, but for someone in New Zealand). Who were his parents? Thank you!!

Linda

This is on ancestry

Name: William Baldwin
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 29 May 1814
Baptism Place: Condover-Preston, Hampshire, England
Father: John Baldwin
Mother: Ann
FHL Film Number: 6344481

1851 census
Name: John Baldwin - lawyer
Age: 71
Estimated birth year: abt 1780
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann Baldwin
Gender: Male
Where born: Preston Candover, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish: North Waltham


Name: John Baldwin
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 24 Sep 1779
Baptism Place: Candover-Preston, Hampshire, England
Father: Daniel Baldwin
Mother: Olive
FHL Film Number: 6344479

Big thank you, mygriffiths! You can always be relied upon. I don't know why I couldn't find the baptism with the names of the parents last night. I looked on familysearch and I have an ancestry subscription. Perhaps it was too late and I was too bleary-eyed. I have just put in William Baldwin's name, the date and Hampshire on familysearch and it came up immediately. Strange! But I'm very grateful to you.

Linda

P.S. I expect father John was a "sawyer" , not a lawyer.

I had wondered about that but William had the same job on the 1861 census
Name: William Baldwin
Age: 47
Estimated birth year: abt 1814
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Catharine Baldwin
Gender: Male
Where born: Preston Candover, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish or Township: Esclusham Below
County/Island: Denbighshire
Country: Wales

Hopefully the person you are helping has some knowledge about William.

I think William was also a sawyer. I suspect the person I am helping has no knowledge of William at all. Her knowledge stopped at his daughter Caroline, who was her ancestor. William is living in Birkenhead in 1851, where his birthplace is given as Preston! His wife and eldest daughter were supposedly born in Hants, Lancashire (!!). "Preston" threw me for a couple of days, but then I managed to trace William and his wife to Hampshire.After that push from you, I have now traced the line back to Olive's birth and her parents William Lamboll and Elizabeth Simpson. So, I'm pleased about that.

The Catharine above is possibly William's second wife, but I haven't found a marriage - not that I looked very far. He may just have been living with Catharine. His first wife Emily (from Hampshire) died in Birkenhead in 1852. The Harriet in the 1861 census is her daughter.

Thanks a lot again.

Linda

Marriage: 20 Jul 1856 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
William Baldwin - full, Sawyer, Widower, Gascoyne St.
Catherine Humphreys - (X), full, Widow, Gascoyne St.
Groom's Father: John Baldwin, Sawyer
Bride's Father: John Davies, Labourer
Witness: George Davies, (X); Maria Davies, (X)
Married by Banns by: Henry Brooks, Curate
Register: Marriages 1856, Page 172, Entry 344
Source: LDS Film 1656679

Thanks, mygriffiths!

I suspected that Catherine's maiden name was probably Davies due to the lodger in 1861, but I didn't have the time to go through the William Baldwins who married Catherines between 1852 and 1861 and then to check the surnames of these to see whether a Catherine Davies had married a man with that surname. Should have done, I know!

If you are bored, you might be able to help with something else. William and Emily Baldwin are living in Birkenhead in 1851 with the children Emma, Caroline, Charles, Harriet and Mary. There had also been a child called William, who died in 1848. I know who Emma married. I know a lot about Caroline (married John Seddon and moved to Aspull). Harriet was a bit difficult. Her birth is registered as "Priscilla", she married as "Harriet Priscilla" and is in the censuses as "Harriet", but she is now sorted. I think Mary died aged 2.

But what happened to Charles?? I thought he would be easy as he was born in France (as was Caroline), but I can find no Charles Baldwin after 1851 who was born in France. I can't find an early death. Nor can I seem to find a marriage that fits. Of course, there are many Charles Baldwins in the censuses and he may have given the wrong place of birth. Or he may have emigrated. Anyway any ideas??

Linda

There is a death of Charles Baldwin aged 11 in Birkenhead in 1856. Wirral BIR/20/10

That could very well be him, in fact probably is. He was born 1845/46. Have now seen this on ancestry and on Cheshire BMD, but nothing suitable came up when I looked on ancestry before. Really, really strange. Big thank you again! I'll sent the info about William's second marriage and Charles' early death to the person in New Zealand.

Linda

could this be William and Emily's marriage Year 1840
Registration Quarter Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district Alresford
Parishes for this Registration District Alresford
Inferred County Hampshire
Volume 7
Page 11
Household Members
Name Age
William Baldwin
Harriet Harding
Thomas Tee
Ann Tibble
Emily Tibble

Yes, Winnie, he married Emily Tibble. Her sister Ann married Thomas Tee.

Linda