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Family Tree - Are you able to help?
Started by: barbarabanter (198)   Report abuse
Are you able to guide me or help in some way?

I have since established James Bull Date of Birth not known married Martha Wood on 13th July 1811 in Ramsden, Bellhouse, Essex (Church called St Mary the Virgin)

I would like to find out who James Bulls parents were.

Martha Wood was Born in 1791
daughter of Abraham and Susannah)

Parents Abraham Wood (aged 21) married Susannah Walker on 4th or 5th April 1761 at Saint Luke 161 Old Street, Finsbury, London EC1V 9NG

James and Martha Bull had 6 children together in 19 years, one of which was Stephen Bull. My ancestor.

Any help you can offer is appreciated.

Posted by: winnie (1080)   Report abuse
could this be him Name: James Bull
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 16 May 1790
Baptism Place: St. Mary's, Walthamstow, Essex, England
Father: James Bull
Mother: Elizabeth
FHL Film Number: 1564135

Posted by: barbarabanter (198)   Report abuse
Winnie, I can't thank you enough. How on earth did you find this out? I am now researching James Bull and Martha Wood's children. Struggling to find concrete information if they went on to get married and have children themselves.


1) Stephen Bull Born 1812 Ramsden Heath, Essex Married Ann Kent on the 8th October 1836 in Cranham, Essex Died October 1888 Little Warley, Essex

2) Phoebe Bull Born 1813 Little Warley, Essex

3) Ester Bull Born 1823 Little Warley, Essex

4) Maria Bull Born 1824 Little Warley, Essex

5) Eliza Bull Born 1827 Little Warley, Essex

6) Hannah Bull Born 1830 Little Warley, Essex

Posted by: winnie (1080)   Report abuse
Ann Kent

Birth
1815
Cranham, Essex, England
Death
1873
RomfordNEW
Family Info

Father

Mother
Spouse
Stephen Bull (1812-1888)
Married 1836
Children
Eliza (1837-)
Susanna (1841-1842)
James (1843-1845)
Stephen (1846-1894)
George (1848-)
Henry (1849-)
Alfred (1852-)

Posted by: barbarabanter (198)   Report abuse
Winnie,

Thank you again for your help, I have spent sometime online and yet to be successful. I am not able to find out if the following went on to get married or have children.

2) Phoebe Bull Born 1813 Little Warley, Essex

3) Ester Bull Born 1823 Little Warley, Essex

4) Maria Bull Born 1824 Little Warley, Essex

5) Eliza Bull Born 1827 Little Warley, Essex

6) Hannah Bull Born 1830 Little Warley, Essex

Posted by: winnie (1080)   Report abuse
Name: Esther Bull
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1822
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Little Warley, Essex, England
Civil Parish: St George Hanover Square
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

View image
Registration district: St George Hanover Square
Sub-registration district: Belgrave
ED, institution, or vessel: 22v
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 61
Piece: 1477
Folio: 617
Page Number: 16
Household Members:
Name Age
Robt Stevens 29
Elizabeth Stevens 28
Jane Culross 7
Esther Bull 29

Posted by: winnie (1080)   Report abuse
Name Maria Bull
Age 27
Estimated Birth Year abt 1824
Gender Female
Where born Little Warley, Essex, England
Civil parish Hackney
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps 6295
County/Island Middlesex
Country England
Registration district Hackney
Sub-registration district Hackney
ED, institution, or vessel 07
Household schedule number 39
Piece 1505
Folio 129
Page number 10
Household Members
Name Age
John Henry Cummis 33
Anna Cummis 33
Adelaide Cummis 1
Susanna Haworth 27
Maria Bull 27 Housemaids servant

Posted by: winnie (1080)   Report abuse
Name Eliza Bull
Age 13
Estimated Birth Year abt 1828
Gender Female
Where born Essex, England
Civil parish Little Warley
Hundred Chafford
County/Island Essex
Country England
Registration district Billericay
Sub-registration district Brentwood
Piece 324
Book 15
Folio 6
Page number 7
Household Members
William Seabrook 35
Mary Ann Seabrook 30
Barbara Seabrook 3
John Seabrook 4 Mo
Sarah Cooper 15
Eliza Bull 13
Thomas Rush 11

Posted by: winnie (1080)   Report abuse
Name Eliza Bull
Age 24
Estimated Birth Year abt 1827
Relation Servant
Gender Female
Where born L Warley, Essex, England
Civil parish Chelmsford
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps 2607
Town Chelmsford
County/Island Essex
Country England
Registration district Chelmsford
Sub-registration district Ingatestone
ED, institution, or vessel 2b
Household schedule number 82
Piece 1775
Folio 289
Page number 25
Household Members
Name Age
Thomas Phillips 51
Marianne Phillips 43
Henry L Phillips 15
Eliza Bull 24 House servant
Thomas Reeve 16

Posted by: winnie (1080)   Report abuse
Name Eliza Bull
Age 34
Estimated Birth Year 1827
Relation Servant
Gender Female
Where born Little Warley, Essex, England
Civil parish Stepney
Ecclesiastical parish Trinity
County/Island Middlesex
Country England
Registration district Mile End Old Town
Sub-registration district Mile End Old Town Eastern
ED, institution, or vessel 6
Household schedule number 86
Piece 294
Folio 125
Page number 19
Household Members
Name Age
Frederic S Lea 37
Elizabeth C Lea 32
Thomas S Lea 3
George H C Lea 2
Arthur A Lea 1
John Lea 2 months
Eliza Bull 34 unmarried Cook domestic
Hannah Franklin 21
Elizabeth J Munro 34
Charles Boyall 16

Posted by: winnie (1080)   Report abuse
Name Eliza Bull
Age 43
Estimated Birth Year abt 1828
Relation Servant
Gender Female
Where born Essex, England
Civil parish West Ham
Ecclesiastical parish Emmanuel
Town Upton
County/Island Essex
Country England
Registration district West Ham
Sub-registration district West Ham
ED, institution, or vessel 7
Household schedule number 149
Piece 1629
Folio 20
Page number 32
Household Members
Name Age
Rosina Kennedy 46
Rosa Stevens 25
Guy Stevens 3
Chas Ernest Stevens 2
Eliza Bull 43 unmarried servant
Julia Wootton De Tracy 36
Ada Cork 23
Annie Hall 13
Alice Plater 9
Cassandra Bliss 10
Alice Raymond 7
Harry Raymond 5
Frank Vant 5

Posted by: barbarabanter (198)   Report abuse

Winnie,

That's amazing, thank you so much. I am guessing you were not able to find anything in relation to either - Phoebe Bull Born 1813 Little Warley, Essex and or Hannah Bull Born 1830 Little Warley, Essex?

So it looks like Ester, Maria and Eliza Bull did not get married and were servants to a number of families over the years.

I have lost track of time today researching over family members. All very interesting trying to find out if ancestors went on to get married, have children, grand children

Posted by: mygriffiths (1076) Report abuse
1851 ancestry Hannah Bule(transcription error) was described as assistant in illness with a farming family.
Phoebe married Joseph Low(e) in 1835 In Great Burstead
children
Eliza 1842/3
Frederick George 1845
Joseph 1848/9
on 1871 census have grandson William Lowe 1861/2 as well as son Joseph living with them

1881 Joseph and Phoebe in Rainham.
Phebe died 1887

James Bull aged 50 on 1841 census has Maria and Hannah with him.Has Martha already died? James died in 1842 so the girls would probably have had to go into service.

Posted by: barbarabanter (198)   Report abuse
Mygriffiths, thank you for your help.

Do you happen to know how to access records on film? I am interested in seeing James Bull Baptism records see below.

Baptised TBC 16th May 1790 at St Marys, Walthamstow, Essex FHL Film Number : 1564135
(Parents James Bull and Elizabeth)

Any advice, guidance is appreciated.

Posted by: mygriffiths (1076) Report abuse
The information you have is on ancestry but ,unfortunately, there is no image with this one.Sometimes you can be lucky and the image is available but this must depend on the church.Maybe you can contact the church?
I have checked on familysearch.org and again no image is available for James nor his possible 11 siblings.
Interestingly there are two baptisms for James son of James and Elizabeth Bull one in 1792. Maybe there are two families with the 13 children?

Posted by: barbarabanter (198)   Report abuse
mygriffiths,

Thanks again for spending time helping. You are correct in saying I have been using Ancestry.

You seem to think James Bull might have 11 siblings? Where did you come across this information and who might they be?

As you are aware I do not have James Bull exact DOB, only his Baptism and marriage details, Martha Wood on 13th July 1811 in Ramsden, Bellhouse, Essex (Church called St Mary the Virgin)

I'm now intrigued to know who James Bull siblings might be.

Posted by: mygriffiths (1076) Report abuse
On familysearch.org as well as James

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening:
16 May 1790
St. Mary's, Walthamstow, Essex, England
residence:
Walthamstow, Essex, England
father:
James Bull
mother:
Elizabeth

James Bull

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening:
8 July 1792
St. Mary's, Walthamstow, Essex, England
residence:
Walthamstow, Essex, England
father:
James Bull
mother:
Elizabeth

I found the following christenings with parents James and Elizabeth Bull and at St. Mary's Walthemstow
Sarah 8/2/1788
Mary 10/5/1789
Susannah 6/7/1794
William 27/12/1795
Isabella 21/1/1798
John 27/4/1800
George 9/5/1802
Benjamin 8/7/1804
Kezia 7/9/1806
Amelia 2/10/1808
Pricilla 16/6/1811

Posted by: winnie (1080)   Report abuse
maybe 2 james and the first one died

Posted by: mygriffiths (1076) Report abuse
That does fit in with the regularity of the other births for one family.

 
 
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