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Started by: graneyjoseph (4618) 

sad day in the mining industry good luck to our yorkshire mining friends,best job I ever had great people.

Started: 18th Dec 2015 at 18:12

Posted by: MarieM (5563)

It's an absolute disgrace, The Tories have ruined Steel and Coal Industries. They must feel proud.

Replied: 18th Dec 2015 at 19:26

Posted by: sir bob (7084)

It is not necessarily the Tories who have ruined it in this case, it is the EU's fault, because under EU law, Drax Power Station (the main customer of Kellingly Colliery) have got to accept the cheaper imported coal, instead of Kellingley Colliery coal

Replied: 18th Dec 2015 at 22:30

Posted by: whups (13119) 

yes it was the tories who desimated our industry sir bob. it was them who pushed the cheap coal & built power stations on the coast instead of buying ours. our coal was by far the cheapest at the time because the imported coal was very heavily subsidised by their respective governments . this lot are by a country mile the worst we,ve ever had . they just signed a deal on climate change then have given licenses to frack the north west . so much for the deal on climate change.

Replied: 19th Dec 2015 at 01:12

Posted by: whups (13119) 

anyway joe the lights have now gone out in the mining industry of which we served with distinction & thatcher,s wishes have been fullfilled overlooked by thatchers adopted son cameron & to rub salt in the wound have capped the paltry sum of 14.5 grand in redundancy .now the area of kellingley can be added to the rest of the decimated wilderness created by the tories. will they lose sleep after decimating yet another industry & it,s people , i think not.

Replied: 19th Dec 2015 at 01:20

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4618) 

Brian the nerve of this government to cap the redundancy payments .

Replied: 19th Dec 2015 at 07:06

Posted by: aussie94 (2397)

granneyjoseph I understand you a terrible human cost to the communities who bore the brunt of this.

Replied: 19th Dec 2015 at 07:35

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4618) 

closing down the mines decimated communities all over the country.

Replied: 19th Dec 2015 at 09:33

Posted by: whups (13119) 

do this lot care joe ? , i think not . this lot stink 2 high heaven & no-one can tell me that there,s no conflict of interest for osborne wen his father-in-law is on the board of cuadrilla ? .i never thought i,d ever see a worse government that thatcher , but this 1 takes the cake .

Replied: 19th Dec 2015 at 13:39

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4618) 

Brian totally agree.

Replied: 19th Dec 2015 at 13:49

Posted by: Handsomeminer (2706)

Brian the difference between thatcher & this lot is theirs no real will to oppose them ,the people who should be at the forefront of opposition have had it rammed down their throat that socialism & trade unionism is the root of all evil.It really baffles me why working class people vote Tory and people in crap jobs are anti trade union plenty 10 Bob millionaires about today

Replied: 19th Dec 2015 at 16:20

Posted by: whups (13119) 

it looks like we have lost the stomach for the fight in this country colin . if this were happening in france there would be a standstill in paris .

Replied: 21st Dec 2015 at 20:41

Posted by: aussie94 (2397)

Tories have never cared , sat back took all the profits from their coal mines and then looked down their noses at the men who made them rich.
Despicable people , i would use much stronger terms to describe them , but I respect my fellow posters.

Replied: 22nd Dec 2015 at 08:28

Posted by: aussie94 (2397)

Tories have never cared , sat back took all the profits from their coal mines and then looked down their noses at the men who made them rich.
Despicable people , i would use much stronger terms to describe them , but I respect my fellow posters.

Replied: 22nd Dec 2015 at 08:28

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4618) 

well said.

Replied: 22nd Dec 2015 at 08:41

Posted by: whups (13119) 

duncan-smith says work an extra 200 hours to make up the short fall . beggars belief wen they have just put thousands more on the dloe ? .

Replied: 22nd Dec 2015 at 14:45

Posted by: GOLDEN BEAR (6555) 

TODAY IM HEARTBROKEN JUST THINKING ABOUT MY DAD WHO GAVE HIS LIFE TO THE MINING INDUSTRY WHEN HE WAS A MERE 12 YEAR OLD AT BLUNDELL MINES PEMBERTON , AS LONG AS I DRAW BREATHE I WILL NEVER FORGIVE THESE LIYING TORIES,NEVER R.I.P. KING COAL.

Replied: 23rd Dec 2015 at 16:43

Posted by: Jazzy (8656) 

GOLDEN BEAR, good men like your father, were the backbone of our communities, and we will never see their like again, the men or the communities. It's very sad that so much history can be wiped out, and the devastation left behind.

I do blame Mrs Thatcher, but also Mr Scargill. They were so determined to destroy each other, they didn't give a fig about the damage they did, or the communities they destroyed.

I used to live two doors away from a policeman, he went around bragging about the overtime he was making on the picket line. In a small village like Bickershaw, where some families were backs to the wall, it was truely dreadful. And what had been a pleasant little village, was no longer a good place to live.

I'm sure you have some wonderful memories of your father, the miners, what giants they were, we should raise a glass or two to them.

Have a good Christmas, Golden Bear, and a Peaceful New Year.




Replied: 23rd Dec 2015 at 17:04

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4618) 

Jazzy well said to all my friends MERRY CHRISTMAS.

Replied: 23rd Dec 2015 at 17:48

Posted by: Jazzy (8656) 

Merry Christmas Joe and all the best for the New Year.

Replied: 23rd Dec 2015 at 17:50

Posted by: whups (13119) 

jazzy why do you think the strike was orchastrated in yorkshire ? .

Replied: 23rd Dec 2015 at 20:50

Posted by: whups (13119) 

did anyone read the mirror today in the letters page it was about this very subject of kellingley.

Replied: 23rd Dec 2015 at 20:53

Posted by: Jazzy (8656) 

Whups, it was orchestrated in Yorkshire because that was Scargills stronghold, and I believe at the time, had the most of the remaining pits?

Replied: 23rd Dec 2015 at 22:01

Posted by: Handsomeminer (2706)

It was orchestrated at the previous national congress if memory serves me right

Replied: 23rd Dec 2015 at 22:50

Posted by: Jazzy (8656) 

I'm sure you know better than I do Colin.

Although my father was a miner who had worked in the Welsh coalfields as a young man, and in Lancashire after the war, he broke his neck in a mining accident in about 1960, and had to find alternative employment after a series of operations, I think at Leigh Infimary and about a year in a rehabilitation home, I believe it was Oakmere in Cheshire.

So at the time of the miners strike, my father was no longer in the pit.

I vividly remember my father borrowing my Maths books. He had to find employment other than the pits, and needed to update his skills.

He was unemployed for quite some time, but eventually clawed his way back. He was a regular in the RAF and was a trained Instrument Fitter, and that was how he got back into the workforce.

But it was a very difficult time for us, and I know how hard it can be when your job has been cut from beneath your feet.

Replied: 23rd Dec 2015 at 23:04
Last edited by Jazzy: 23rd Dec 2015 at 23:08:29

Posted by: Handsomeminer (2706)

Jazzy you must be very proud of your dad sounds like he was a very determined character

Replied: 23rd Dec 2015 at 23:21

Posted by: Jazzy (8656) 

I am proud of him Colin. He was in plaster from his neck to his waist for a long time. And was unable to turn his head/neck after the accident, so had to move his whole body to look to either side. His right arm wasn't ever very strong afterwards, but he did pick himself up, and started again.

It's one of those things that looking back, I realise what a very strong man he was. He was of the generation that men were the breadwinners or nothing. And he was out of work for about 4 years, which I think almost destroyed him.

Sorry I'm getting a bit maudlin, he's always on my mind at this time of year as his birthday was 31 December.


Replied: 23rd Dec 2015 at 23:37

Posted by: Handsomeminer (2706)

Nowt wrong with that jazzy RIP your dad have a good xmas

Replied: 24th Dec 2015 at 08:57

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4618) 

Jazzy and Colin have a very MERRY CHRISTMAS. and to all my friends as well.

Replied: 24th Dec 2015 at 09:28

Posted by: Jazzy (8656) 

Thank you Colin, have a great Christmas and a Happy New Year

Joe, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year

Replied: 24th Dec 2015 at 12:01

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4618) 

this bloody turkey wont keep still so I can stuff it couple of onions and sausage meat.

Replied: 24th Dec 2015 at 15:41

Posted by: Jazzy (8656) 

Ha ha, I've got an image of you chasing it round the kitchen with a string of sausages and a couple of onions, no wonder you frightened it!

Replied: 24th Dec 2015 at 15:57

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4618) 

I will catch it unawares and stuff it so to speak .

Replied: 24th Dec 2015 at 16:15

Posted by: Jazzy (8656) 

Ha ha, enjoy yourself Joe, it's Christmas

Replied: 24th Dec 2015 at 16:32

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4618) 

you to Jazzy.

Replied: 24th Dec 2015 at 17:54

Posted by: spud1 (inactive)

Jazzy, I was in Oakmere in 1964,it was a wonderful place,there seemed to be more staff than patients,you would have to pay a lot to stay in a place like Oakmere,we went on a Monday and came home on Friday,I was a short stay,only 12 weeks,some were there over a year,it was owned by the NCB,I believe it's now been converted to luxury apartments.

Replied: 24th Dec 2015 at 18:22

Posted by: Jazzy (8656) 

Spud, I have been trying to work out the year my dad was injured, I was a junior school, but just before I moved to senior school, so it would have been 1961/2 my dad was injured and 1962/3 he was in Oakmere.

The only time we saw my dad was when he went for check ups at Leigh infirmary, and the ambulance used to stop outside our front door for 10 mins so we could see him.

It was all very confusing for me as I was quite young, and didn't really understand what was going on, and my memory is very blurry about it all. It wasn't really until I was older that I understood the seriousness of it all.

Replied: 24th Dec 2015 at 18:52

Posted by: spud1 (inactive)

Jazzy,the consultant for most of the Wigan area patients was Mr Knowles,he came quite often,and if any treatment was needed it was done at Leigh infirmary,your Dad could have been there when I was if he was a long term patient,there were approx 40 patients,quite a lot were none N.C.B though.

Replied: 24th Dec 2015 at 19:36

Posted by: Jazzy (8656) 

Spud, yes you are right it was Mr Knowles! I don't know how I'd forgotten, because I saw him myself with a problem with my hands, in his rooms at Upper Dicconson Street, many years later. My dad thought he was a fantastic man.

It was the NCB that sent my dad there, I guess because he was injured on the job.

I believe he had a lot of physiotherapy and occupational therapy at Oakmere, but his surgery was at Leigh.

I think my dad was there something like from 62 to 63. He was there for about a year. I don't remember exactly.

I do remember I was in the 4th year at school before he got back into employment. It was bloody tough for my family. My mother worked two jobs, she was an absolute star.

And in the end we got back on track and myself and my sisters turned out reasonably well!

Replied: 24th Dec 2015 at 19:50
Last edited by Jazzy: 24th Dec 2015 at 20:00:05

Posted by: whups (13119) 

i was under dr knowles at wri/ton.

Replied: 24th Dec 2015 at 21:40

Posted by: aussie94 (2397)

jazzy , I have red your posts regarding your father with admiration. Admiration for the grit and determination shown by your father a man of great courage by the sound of it.
And admiration for his daughter who keeps his memory alive.
well done girl !

Replied: 25th Dec 2015 at 05:19
Last edited by aussie94: 25th Dec 2015 at 05:20:59

Posted by: Jazzy (8656) 

Thank you for you lovely post aussie.

Merry Christmas

Replied: 25th Dec 2015 at 10:00

Posted by: GOLDEN BEAR (6555) 

CLOSE

Replied: 30th Dec 2015 at 00:19
Last edited by GOLDEN BEAR: 4th Jan 2016 at 16:59:31

Posted by: tonker (27835) 

BY JINGO ?

Replied: 30th Dec 2015 at 19:13

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4618) 

WISHING YOU ALL A HAPPY AND HEALTHY NEW YEAR.

Replied: 31st Dec 2015 at 05:33

Posted by: tonker (27835) 

CRIKEY DAYS !

Replied: 31st Dec 2015 at 12:27

Posted by: tonker (27835) 

.... and a happy new 'ear !

Replied: 31st Dec 2015 at 12:42

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4618) 

you to tonker.

Replied: 31st Dec 2015 at 13:01

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4618) 

I just read that lord ezra as died former chairman of the national coal board ,honourable man R.I.P.

Replied: 3rd Jan 2016 at 14:38

Posted by: Jazzy (8656) 

RIP Lord Ezra.

Joe, hope you managed to catch that turkey and your not still chasing it round the kitchen

Replied: 3rd Jan 2016 at 16:11

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4618) 

we called a truce having chopped ham with pork.

Replied: 4th Jan 2016 at 11:27

Posted by: Jazzy (8656) 

Ha ha, you could keep it until next year Joe, it will be so fat, it will be easy to catch .

Replied: 4th Jan 2016 at 12:49

Posted by: spud1 (inactive)

He only came in after I had left the NCB,it was Alf Robens in my days,he visited Parkside in the very early days,and he was very nice and we had a chat with him,there were very few men working there then,most were tunnelers working for Wimpy.

Replied: 4th Jan 2016 at 13:37

Posted by: Jazzy (8656) 

I remember the relationship between Joe Gormley and Derek Ezra always seemed to be one of mutual respect.

I watched Joe Gormley give a speech once, and he referred to the then Derek Ezra as Derek, and then said in an aside, that that was what he called him, when it was just the two of them, or words to that effect.

I can't imagine Thatcher and Scargill being on first name terms!

Replied: 4th Jan 2016 at 14:48

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4618) 

they are all people who we as ordinary folk respected. scargill and thatcher were best not remembered.

Replied: 4th Jan 2016 at 16:13

Posted by: whups (13119) 

anyone read the full page spread of ste (alf) garner who worked at golborne in the wigan observer. he was the last miner out of the cage at kellingley .

Replied: 7th Jan 2016 at 12:24
Last edited by whups: 7th Jan 2016 at 12:25:27

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4618) 

what happens to the N.U.M.now all the mines have gone.?

Replied: 7th Jan 2016 at 15:04

Posted by: whups (13119) 

it,ll go the same way joe.

Replied: 7th Jan 2016 at 15:37

Posted by: cindy (5970) 

What will happen to Scargills acomodation that He still lives in, Wasnt that paid for out of union funds.?

Replied: 7th Jan 2016 at 17:13

Posted by: Handsomeminer (2706)

Think theirs still a few hundred miners working opencast

Replied: 7th Jan 2016 at 17:30

Posted by: tuddy (1298)

Yea Brian, I read that article about Ste at Kellingley. I bet he never thought that he'd be one of the last men to work down an English coal mine when he was working on Snowy's team at Golborne. The last time that I spoke to him he was working at Daw Mill Colliery.

Replied: 7th Jan 2016 at 19:44

Posted by: gaffer (7929) 

Tuddy

When the Coventry pit shut after the underground fire Alf went to Hatfield colliery in Doncaster and then Kellingley.

Replied: 8th Jan 2016 at 13:10

Posted by: tuddy (1298)

From Daw Mill to Hatfield to Kellingley, looks like he was working his way towards home!

Replied: 8th Jan 2016 at 20:32

Posted by: PeterP (11223)

Proves some men have mining in their blood

Replied: 8th Jan 2016 at 21:35

Posted by: Jazzy (8656) 

I can't remember where I read this, so can't attribute it, sorry


They were men of men, for their fathers were men before them.

Replied: 8th Jan 2016 at 22:34

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4618) 

Jazzy that is good description of all who worked in the mines.

Replied: 9th Jan 2016 at 05:18

Posted by: Jazzy (8656) 

Joe, yes, it describes them perfectly

Replied: 9th Jan 2016 at 11:14

 

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