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Golborne colliery
Started by: flaggy delf (518)  Report abuse
Can anyone tell me how it got Kidglove as a name please?

Posted by: dodger (3414) Report abuse
Because it was in Kidglove Road.

Posted by: tuddy (895) Report abuse
I think Kidglove Road got it's name from the pit.When I worked there I asked the same question, I was told that a glove was found when they started sinking the shafts. Somebody must have a better answer.

Posted by: chris southworth (545) Report abuse
Hi again Tuddy,
Golborne got the nickname "Kidglove Colliery" because of the excellent quality of the coal it produced at one time.It was said you could handle it with soft skin gloves on.

Posted by: tuddy (895) Report abuse
Thanks Chris, I thought that glove in the shaft story sounded a bit ify.

Posted by: irene (2635)  Report abuse
Very interesting, chris. I had wondered if it was so-called because conditions were perhaps not as harsh as in nearby pits, and it was felt that the miners in that particular pit had life a bit "cushy", but I was only guessing at that.

Posted by: flaggy delf (518)  Report abuse
Thanks for all the suggestions. Chris can you tell me what seams were mined there by any chance? Was it linked to Bickershaw underground or Parsonage?

Posted by: flaggy delf (518)  Report abuse
Irene can you tell me about the collapsed shaft at Viadocks Ince. I believe you are an authority on the tragedy having made a great study of the site.

Posted by: irene (2635)  Report abuse
Only that there's someone I would willingly shove down the hole if it were still there, after I was abandoned whilst the "gentleman" dashed off to look at more interesting things than me, eg old capped-off pit-shafts, old railway lines etc!

Posted by: fivestarbry (46) Report abuse
Golborne collery got it's name through the dignatary who was officially opening the mine,he dropped his glove down the shaft,it then got it's nick name as kid glove pit.

Posted by: flaggy delf (518)  Report abuse
that sounds plausible Bry. Thanks

Posted by: PeterP (6112) Report abuse
Flaggy delf the coal seams that where worked Plodder,Florida,Crombrouke,Ince 6ft,earlier Trenchabone.Golborne joined to Bickershaw underground

Posted by: flaggy delf (518)  Report abuse
Thanks to you all for all your help

Posted by: dodger (3414) Report abuse
is this the viaduct story you want Flaggy ?

viaduct

Posted by: flaggy delf (518)  Report abuse
Dodger,can't seem to get the link to work. The story dates back to about 1880 I think when an arch built over an old shaft in Viaduct Row Ince collapsed and a chap in one of the houses built on the arch fell down the shaft

Posted by: dodger (3414) Report abuse
The link is not working now, but this has been discussed on here before.
man down hole

Posted by: chris southworth (545) Report abuse
ppnw,you missed out a few seams.Here's the full list of seams worked at Golborne,starting at the deepest.
Arley,Plodder,Trencherbone,Wigan 4ft,Wigan 5ft,Lower Pigeon House,Lower Florida,Higher Florida,Ince 6ft and Crombouke.Golborne was connected to Bickershaw which in turn was connected to Parsonage and you could go down the pit in Golborne town centre and come up almost in Leigh town centre! Which I among many others, have done.

Posted by: phred (320)   Report abuse
Did my coal face training at Kidglove,any one remember John Willy Fox?He was The shotfirer on the training face.

Posted by: flaggy delf (518)  Report abuse
All fascinating info fellas. Thanks again

Posted by: douglas (inactive) Report abuse
Parsonage, Bickershaw and Golborne where linked underground so you could (given permission) go down any and come up any

Posted by: spud1 (1638) Report abuse
When I was at Parkside there were plans to link Golborne to Parkside,and wind Golborne's coal there.

Posted by: chris southworth (545) Report abuse
Sorry Spud,that must have been canteen talk.No plans for that ever existed or were even considered.

Posted by: spud1 (1638) Report abuse
It was a very long time ago Chris,it was talked about though,but that must have been as far as it got,it was at the time Wimpy were driving the tunnels,around 1961 in fact long before the 1st face opened,I should have said talked about,rather than Plan's,and I left in 1966.

Posted by: PeterP (6112) Report abuse
Chris when did you finish? I once saw provisinial plans to link Golborne to Parkside due to faulting the tunnels driven from both collieries where only a short distance from each other but in the end the plan was abandoned.

Posted by: chris southworth (545) Report abuse
ppnw,I was a surveyor at Golborne from 1972 till 1987 and I didn't hear of or see any schemes of that nature in those years.My boss for the first 10 years, Bill Magrath,who had been colliery surveyor of Golborne since the mid 1950's never mentioned anything.However in the early days of Parkside,they did a lot of exploration work towards the Golborne South Area, which Golborne itself was still only developing into.I do remember seeing that in a few places on the mine plans, proving headings from both pits were pretty close on plan but seperated by hundreds of feet in level.

Posted by: tonker (18999)   Report abuse
Parkside wasn't extensively developed on the north side.

Posted by: chris southworth (545) Report abuse
Read what I wrote again Tonker,carefully this time.I said 'exploration work'.

Posted by: tonker (18999)   Report abuse
Yes. I've read it. Maybe they did do 'exploration work'.

But, and read what I say, carefully, and try to understand, ......... Parkside - wasn't - extensively - developed - on - the - north - side.

That's the side opposite to the south, where, in contrast to the north, extensive development did take place.

Got that?

Posted by: chris southworth (545) Report abuse
who said Parkside was extensively developed on the North side?

Posted by: PeterP (6112) Report abuse
Chris I worked at golborne from 1969-89.I did a short spell in the surveyors office early 70's with linesmen was shown some proposed plans for development of pit including changing over from advancing coal faces to retreating faces.Remember Bill Magrath Ian Gaskell Laurence McCrystal but am murder for remembering names but remember faces sorry I cannot place your Name but must have worked with you either in suveyors office or has a deputy

Posted by: chris southworth (545) Report abuse
Bill was the boss,Ian the Deputy Colliery Surveyor.Early 70's,I would have been an apprentice surveyor,I qualified in 1976.Barry Shaw was the head linesman.Lawrence Mchrystal at that time,I think was with the methane borers.We went to St Helens Tech together on the OND course.He must have qualified as a mine manager but I never heard about him at a coal board pit.He was manager at the small licensed mine at Billinge,Castle Colliery.Who are you?Maybe I can remember.I had hair then,long hair!

Posted by: PeterP (6112) Report abuse
Peter Partridge aka the duck

Posted by: chris southworth (545) Report abuse
Aah, do you know 5 minutes after I'd sent that post I was out in the car and the penny dropped! It's in his username! How are you Peter? You surely must remember me by now? The other surveyor I used to work with mostly was Brian Livesley.Remember him? When I go to the Latics I sit with Stuart Grant,another ex Golborne surveyor and Gary Parkinson,(Carpet)

Posted by: tuddy (895) Report abuse
Chris, those names are a blast from the past, I remember all the Golborne surveyors and linesmen you mentioned, was'nt there also an apprentice called Joe?. I heard that Barry Shaw passed away a couple of years ago. I bumped into John Presscot a few months ago and I saw Peter Cunningham after the rugby final at wembley. I have'nt seen Carpet for about a year.

Posted by: tonker (18999)   Report abuse
Do you remember Peter Sharp, the deputy from the Victorian era? And John Walsh, from ventilation?

Posted by: tuddy (895) Report abuse
tonker, I remember Sharpy well, he used to come to the pit wearing cloggs, you could hear him all over the baths with them on his feet. He always road British bikes and was disgusted with me because I had a Honda.Dose he still live in Haydock? I worked on the ventilation for a few months when John Walsh was a ventilation officer in charge of the methane drainage.

Posted by: tonker (18999)   Report abuse
You mean, does he still live 'IN' Haydock?

No. Last I heard, he was touring Europe in a camper van. Before that, he was living in a container in Penrith, shotfiring in a quarry.
He was always a funny'un, was Pey, always saying "Jap Crap" when he saw my bikes. A good, honest lad though, none the less!

John Walsh is my mate. He's into bikes and Porsches, like myself. He had a BSA Gold Star 350 and a Hailwood Ducati, but he got shut of them when he moved house in 2001. Bad decision!

Posted by: tuddy (895) Report abuse
Yea, I meant in Haydock, corrected now. So it sounds like Sharpy's a hippy now, I wonder what the Europeans make of him!

Posted by: chris southworth (545) Report abuse
Tuddy,the apprentice was Joe Dearden.After he qualified he did a couple of years at the pit then got a job at area suryeyors at Anderton House.I don't think he liked down the pit too much!I think he is still working for The Coal Authority,at Burton on Trent.Tonker,mention my name to John Walsh,he'll remember me I'm sure.I remember Pey Sharpe too,he always was a bit daft,but like you say,a good lad.Other ventilation lads were Freddie Dodd,Wally Mac,who died in the explosion,and a couple of others whose faces I can see but I can't put names to! Of the other surveyors,Brian and Bill are both dead.Ian Gaskell,who a lot of people thought "batted for the other side" and who could be very embarrassing for us who were working with him down the pit,he lives down shropshire now.Remember his 'weird' paintings,we had some on the office wall.Well,he's retired now and has a website about his painting.He didn't "bat for the other side" by the way,far from it!!! I know some tales! Remember Arthur Shawcross? What a balloon! He wrote off to the Daily Mirror after they did a story about attempts to demolish the Piggeries tenements block in Liverpool.Offered his services to blow 'em up! Many other tales!Joe Moss,Geoff Blackburn,Freddy Hock,Big Eric,Ponzer Whippet Yed,whoever he was!!!
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Posted by: tuddy (895) Report abuse
I remember a lad going into Blackburn's office with a big plaster on his forehead. He told Blackburn he'd cut his head and the plaster kept falling of when he sweated and asked for a job on the surface so he could keep the wound clean. Blackburn threw a box of plasters at him and said "teck them dewn't pit wi thi". Joe moss was the overman in the Florida when I started on the haulage.Remember Wigwam yed? he had his long hair parted in the centre like the etrance to a wigwam. There was also Tennis Ball Yed, Skunk Yed, and Empty Yed.

Posted by: tonker (18999)   Report abuse
We had a 'rubber yed' at Parkside. He's on the Parkside Photos!

Posted by: chris southworth (545) Report abuse
I remember not long after I started at Golborne seeing this little old black faced tasmanian devil running up and down the Florida level screaming and shouting at anything and everything.That was my first sight of Joe Moss! Then there was the time Geoff Blackburn was going up on the Cromy manrider and he stopped at a junction where there was a fella sat with his back against a lagging board,lamp off,helmet off,fast asleep! Geoff got off the rider,crept up to him,shone his light in his face and tapped him on the head with his stick. "What are ya doin'?" says Geoff."Havin a minute" says the lad. "when tha comes up pit,tha con come an have a minute in my office" says Geoff.

Posted by: İartİ (6154) Report abuse
I spoke to one of the men on that photo today Tonks!

Pray tell which was the "rubberyed"?

Posted by: tonker (18999)   Report abuse
Art, I can't imagine you knowing either Bret or Brian, as they are both St.Helens lads, so I guess you must have spoken to Billy? Brian (in blue overalls) is 'rubberyed'!

Posted by: --oy-- (1004)  Report abuse
Does anyone remember Charlie Pearce from Haydock?

Posted by: PeterP (6112) Report abuse
Charlie Pearce moved to Ashton used to see him walking his dog,Charlie died a few years ago.Chris you did not finish the tale about the fella and Geoff.Geoff waited in the office for him and waited a long time.When he turned up geoff asked him where had he been,to which the chap replied i have been in the medical room to report i have had a black out down the pit and put you down has a witness

Posted by: PeterP (6112) Report abuse
Once saw (deputy manager)Mr O'nions(onions to us common folk)ranting and raving at a group of hauliers at jack--bit time and nobody would take him on.He then said to these men Do you know who I am very loudly? to which one of the hauliers said by heck poor man does not know who he isMr O'nions departed very quickly and quietly

Posted by: İartİ (6154) Report abuse
The one with the 'tache, a fireman, Bill Thorpe.
Used to work at Johnpit....Know him?

Posted by: --oy-- (1004)  Report abuse
Thanks ppnw - Charlie Pearce (Chuck to this family) was my Uncle.

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
ppnw, remember big Tommy who worked on methane, He was asleep in return when Albert Brown (undermanager 1965)went passed with the Dialers, Albert borrowed the yellow paint from the dialers & painted Tommies boot soles, At 2-15pm when Tommywent for his tally to go up pit he was told to go to Albert Browns cabin,Albert said i am stopping thi half a shift for beeing asleep, Tommy denied it so Albert said Half a shift for having yellow paint on thi boots, he never lived it down,

Posted by: chris southworth (545) Report abuse
Remember Jim Ogden,the deputy manager at Golborne.He was a born again Christian.His approach to man management and industrial relations didn't go down too well with men either!When a gang of men came into his office,straight from the pit,still in their black,ready for a fight about something or other,his way of dealing with them was to sit back in his chair,arms folded,and listen carefully and quietly to their ranting.A few nods of the head in all the right places and a final,"I'll see what I can do about it", was enough to send them out utterly confused,deflated and muttering to each other!

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
Irene you met the wrong man good luck

Posted by: ashpad (84) Report abuse
When I worked on the haulage for Wimpeys when they were driving the tunnels for the Florida faces it was rumoured then that Golborne would link up with Parkside.One afternoon when we had nothing to do the fire man Mclean who later got killed ask if we wanted to go with him on his rounds so we did and we went down the back roads past old workings and he said we were n ot far off Parkside.I started after the explosion on a saturday morning when a few got burned.

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
the day of the explosion I was working at bold the news came down to us a very sad day.

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
the day of the explosion I was working at bold the news came down to us a very sad day.

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
the day of the explosion I was working at bold the news came down to us a very sad day.

Posted by: ashpad (84) Report abuse
This wasnt the last one were some got killed.Not sure if the shot lighter got killed the others all got burned but survived a ball of fire came down the tunnel and they couldnot get out of the way of it luckily itwas said that it didnot reach pit bottom or it would have been a lot worse.

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
ashpad it wasnt a shot lighter that caused this tragedy sadly still a tragedy.

Posted by: tuddy (895) Report abuse
graneyjoseph, I think ashpad is talking about the first Golborne explosion which occurred in 1958. There were no fatalities in that explosion. The second explosion was on March 18th 1979 and killed ten men.

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
tuddy I didnt know about the first one,the one in 1979 certainly sticks in the memory .

Posted by: ashpad (84) Report abuse
road Yes it was the 1958 0ne in the tunnel what was later the main road in from the pit bottom to the Trencherbone.They had just broke through to the then Trencherbone main road when I started and shortly after we carried some one out on a stretcher and we had to go the back road they wouldnot let us use this road although it was easy to walk.

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
seasons greetings to all freinds & ex colleagues ,in partic Tuddy ,Whups ,PeterP & Joe

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
MERRY CHRISTMAS to you all Colin Tuddy Whups PeterP.

Posted by: tuddy (895) Report abuse
Cheers Colin and Joe, hope you're both having a good Christmas along with all the other ex Golborne colliery lads.

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
tuddy not to many turkey sandwiches enjoy.

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
Chris Southworth, Did anyone ever tell you about the oil dripping from the roof in the Trencherbone return, it was caught in a 45g drum, talking 1960.

Posted by: chris southworth (545) Report abuse
I didn't hear about that specifically,but whereabouts are you talking? In what I would know as the "old" part of the pit either side of the manrider tunnel and the 1 in 3, or in the "new" part inbye of the Plodder? I would guess that any oil would probably be coming from Wigan 4ft old workings.I did hear about seepages of oil in this seam at Golborne and at other pits such as Bold and Clockface.

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
yes at Bold chris there was it smelt terrible must of been crude oil not sure if it was No-2 pit or in the South Dip area.

Posted by: tuddy (895) Report abuse
I don't know about oil, but there was plenty of water came through the roof on C9. Chris did anybody know where that was coming from?

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
tuddy we worked in hard conditions heat,cold and wet dusty ,good days though.

Posted by: PeterP (6112) Report abuse
Chris If I remember when you went along the manrider tunnel there was a bend to the right. on this bend was also a L shaped section of tunnel for the old Trencherbone workings. The oil used to seep throu the roof there. Also if you ever did an inspection of the mouthings from the shafts you could walk down an incline to the main return and if you stood quietly you could hear the water running under the floor of the tunnel, Like tuddy said C9 was flooded and the water was coming from somewhere(the Myth of a Subterranean lake)

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
PeterP that might be the pick up point for the ferryman I am not ready yet

Posted by: chris southworth (545) Report abuse
Aye,that's right Peter.The length of the Manriding tunnel after the bend was driven through the old T'bone and Wigan 4ft workings on the downthrow side of the "60yd fault".This used to be the boundary of the pit until the late 1950's when the "new" Loco Tunnel was driven through it as part of the pit's development into the South Area. I can't recall any stories of oil seepages where you say but they would,as I say,be coming from the Wigan 4ft which has a reputation for oil throughout Lancs and at Golborne is about 15-20 yds above the T'bone.
The incline as you call it would be the "1 in 3".This again was in the old workings of the T'bone/Wigan 4ft and served the purpose of a dual return for the pit.As with any old workings there's always water involved and what you heard would carry on running downhill into the old workings below the manrider tunnel to be pumped out at the old pump station near the bend you mention.
As for the water in C9,that would be coming from the old C7 face to the rise and making it's way there through a sandstone bed about 10yds above the Crombouke seam.
Incidentally,the "old C7 face" was just starting to be developed in 1972 when I was starting my mining career and was the first working I went to down Golborne when I went to help set out C7 Return.The 2nd place I went to was on C5 face,which was right under the East Lancs,and where the joke used to be that when it was quiet, you could hear the Scammell trucks going past.

Posted by: PeterP (6112) Report abuse
I worked on C9 and can remember the coal face having a dip in the coal seam and many a time flooding because the pump on the coal face broke downI started of in the main rd advanced heading .They kept on saying the water would do you no harm but everybody had rashes or sores or where spitting blood up .I have seen cutter picks change colour in a matter of minutes and the fitters where for ever changing armoured hydraulic hoses because they where rotting and splitting

Posted by: chris southworth (545) Report abuse
If you can remember Peter,there were no water problems on the faces either side of C9,because C9 was then acting as the sump for the water and was allowed to fill up.However as the faces to each side were worked we had to implement the "Precautions against Inrushes" Regulations and observe a "40 yd cautionary zone" within which we had to keep the water level in C9 below us and drill boreholes to the side and front of the advancing face.
The water was indeed very caustic,there was all sorts of stuff in it.The dip you refer to was a succession of small faults which troubled the face throughout it's life and provided a ready made route for the water from the sandstone above.I seem to remember the water was sampled by the scientific branch regularly.

Posted by: bentlegs (4187) Report abuse
I went on an inspection with owd Tommy Occleshaw down C5 & part way down you walked over an abandand Samson Longwall cutter, That would be about 1961,

Posted by: chris southworth (545) Report abuse
bentlegs,in 1961,that would have been C5 in the "old" Crombouke,closer to pit bottom and accessed from the Crombouke tunnels which were driven from the old main tunnels at 1 in 4 to the left.If you look in the golborne colliery section in the album you'll see a picture at the top of the old crombouke manrider, among the other photos of golborne which I posted a while ago.

Posted by: tuddy (895) Report abuse
I once sent some timber down the panzer on C9, then I got a message on the tannoy saying that it hadn't arrived, so I made my way down the face to see what had happened to it. When I reached that dip I found all the timber floating above the panzer in about two feet of water. I remember being given some plastic bottles to fill with samples of the water so that it could be analyzed, but nobody ever told me what it contained. No wonder we all had rashes from that place.

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
I watched a programme on BBC1 this morning real lives reunited it featured the Lofthouse colliery disaster 1973 worth a watch,

Posted by: chris southworth (545) Report abuse
Aye graneyjoseph,I didn't see that particular programme but I've seen a few things on Youtube about Lofthouse.During my time at St Helens and later North Staffs Poly 1972-76,doing my OND/HNC Mine Surveying,we covered the Lofthouse tragedy in a lot of detail because it was very relevant to our future job and showed what could go wrong if not enough attention was paid to the detail.

Posted by: tuddy (895) Report abuse
Chris, I think that programme is repeated on BBC2 at 7.50AM. on Monday 13th of January.

Posted by: chris southworth (545) Report abuse
Thanks Ste,I'll have a look at that.

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
and it shows Arthur Scargill sincerely involved in the attempted rescue not a publicity exercise.

Posted by: tuddy (895) Report abuse
Has anybody seen the centre pages of tonight's Wigan Evening Post? There's a couple of photos of Golborne miners in the 1970s. The caption reads Parkside colliery but it's Golborne. Brian Cunningham and Nicky Murry are two faces that I recognise.

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
for anyone interested in the disaster walk . planned for-
sun 16th march - assemble @ 1-30 - 2-00pm at the queen anne-procession starts between 2-00 & 2-30 . after church refreshments at the catholic club near the naylors club.
come 1 come all as i,m sure our lads wont let us down.

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
iv,e cut out the pic from the observer & uploaded it & if accepted it will be on either album or golborne colliery in the works pics.

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
well done whups ,memories are not to be forgotten.

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
anybody out their remember Kung Foo salvaging all the power cables ,think most of them went to the channel tunnel,he offered us a job installing a hauser dinter in a pit in siberia ,he made a lot of money around that time

Posted by: tuddy (895) Report abuse
I remember working in the developments at Golborne with Kung Foo and his mate, a big Scotsman, can't remember his name. The last time I saw him was at Parsonage, he started his own salvage company, he had an office in Leigh,can't remember the name he called his company.

Posted by: PeterP (6112) Report abuse
Tuddy Aspull engineering came to mind could be thinking of something else thou

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
Tuddy /P , it wasnt aspull engineering eric greenalgh worked as a supervisor for them ,Dave clarke also had a spell with them ,cant remember the name of Kung Foos gang,he rolled up at the pit in a ferrari at one point

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
colin ,kung foo what was his real name ?.

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
morning Joe think it was Derek Hodges ,remember Dinky working for him

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
morning Colin,yes I remember now Dinky was brian fishers gopher names from the past.

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
was it joy mining colin ? .

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
that dosnt ring a bell Brian seem recall it was ,,Something Salvage,,

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
Colin I think your right about the salvage bit not sure on full name,whups joy mining is or was a mining machinery firm I think from Ince ,they are mentioned on the album section,

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
I was wrong about JOY being from ince they might have had connections with Ince ,they made machines similar to doscoes ,joy continuous miner(JCMs).we had some at Bold,an American firm in origin.

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
joe joy became part of gullicks & was based at their ince site

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
Colin thats right one of my neighbours worked at gullicks,joe joy thats got a ring to it,

Posted by: evelyn (421) Report abuse
Joe and handsome, Don says could it be Bill Richards that you are thinking about ?

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
Hello Evelyn and Don good to hear from you,Bill Richards I cant remember him, when we where at Parsonage ,Aspull engineering and a firm called Blackwall mining were doing work at the pit ,a manriding conveyor near the pit bottom I seem to recall,Colin might remember we worked with the blackwall lads.

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
hi evelyn hope you & don are ok ,dont remember Bill Richards
joe where Blackwall mining the guys from nottingham staying at the Rockleigh in ashton

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
Morning Colin yes thats right ,they used to get a binbag with their dinners in them not a bad bunch of lads,that name that Evelyn mentioned cant remember that one.

Posted by: tuddy (895) Report abuse
I heard some sad news this week, Tannoy, one of the old characters from Golborne Colliery has passed away. His funeral is at St Stephen's church in Whelley at 1pm on Friday.

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
sad news indeed ste . worked with roy in the florida shunt & L3 brow.how old would he be ste.

Posted by: tuddy (895) Report abuse
73 Brian, not really that old.

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
another one of our mining community gone R.I.P.

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
wot happened ste , was he i,ll .

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
had a lot of laughs with Roy down the Florida, Rest In Peace Tannoy, a character indeed

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
well said Colin, memories can, t forget them

Posted by: tuddy (895) Report abuse
I don't know what was wrong with him Brian, I saw his daughter a few months back, she didn't say that he was ill or anything. The last time that I saw him was about a year ago,he was having a smoke outside of Wigan market hall with Jack Turner, another rum card.

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
yes jack,s still here after rumours were sent round of his demise . had some fun with both of em . rest in peace tannoy.

Posted by: Campfire (576)   Report abuse
tuddy - how's things mate ????

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
golborne was a step up from moving from bold the people I met were top dollar.

Posted by: chris southworth (545) Report abuse
Agreed graneyjoseph.Golborne was indeed a very friendly pit to work at. I enjoyed my 14 years there.

Posted by: tuddy (895) Report abuse
Hello Campfire, doing O.K. mate, nice to hear from you.

Posted by: Campfire (576)   Report abuse
tuddy - me to !! shame we only meet up on the anniversary occasions. Look after yourself and don't let the ba****ds get you down...

Posted by: tuddy (895) Report abuse
That's a good bit of advice, you should get down to the Golborne ex miners meetings, It's good to see the old faces, next one's in September.

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
tuddy I hope handsomeminer"Colin"is reading these comments i would imagine he would like to attend as well.

Posted by: Campfire (576)   Report abuse
Thanks tuddy - I'll keep my eyes and ears open for the date, if you find out the date let us know mate. See you soon

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
Ste I reember some great times in the mines bold ,golborne and the complex parsonage bickershaw ,never forget them.

Posted by: tuddy (895) Report abuse
Yea Joe, you had to be there to know what it was all about. I'll post the date of the next meeting when it's confirmed, It'll probably be the first Wednesday in September.

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
cheers tuddy.

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
for anyone who knows ronnie prior he,s in hospital at wigan with breathing difficulties.

Posted by: Campfire (576)   Report abuse
I agree Joe - Don't seem to have the same crack anymore.. Look at someone funny were I work and your reported. God knows what the consequences would be if you called them some of the names I had thrown at me, especially when a fish plate shot off on a re-rip me and our Frank was on and hit the Deputy on the ankle, when he was having a sly drink of our water.

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
Hi Whups how olds Ronnie hpoe he gets well soon

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
he,s in the 70s i think colin.

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
cheers Brian give him my regards if you see him

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
good regards to him and everyone sunshine in newport hope you all have the same ,

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
Hi Joe how you doing I emailed stey dixon about a month ago got no reply have you heard out from him

Posted by: tuddy (895) Report abuse
Best wishes to Ronnie, I've not seen him for about five years but he never seemed to look any older whenever I saw him.

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
hi tuddy did you go to tannoys funeral

Posted by: tuddy (895) Report abuse
No Colin, I was at work,had time off for two funerals in the last month, so they're getting a bit fed up with me.

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
know the feeling were the wrong age

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
Colin I will e-mail Ste today and let you know if I get a reply.

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
Colin I e-mailed Ste no reply dont know what to do next, I know he as not been well I hope Evelyn is reading this she might know what to do.

Posted by: evelyn (421) Report abuse
Hi Joe and Colin,
We spoke to Ste this morning, he has had health problems but he is fine again. He said he will email you.
Take care both of you

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
thanks Evelyn hope you and Don are well ,we was worried about Ste we know he as not been well good to hear he is ok,Regards Joe.

Posted by: alanrabster (60)  Report abuse
irene 1958 nothing cushy at golbourne pit my dad worked there he was a grafter worked hard for what he got

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
alanrabster whose your dad may have worked with him

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
for anyone who knew & worked with ronnie prior he died on thursday.

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
whups sorry to hear of ronnie prior death,not sure if I would have known him still a sad loss.

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
most knew him joe . he,s from stubshaw , but moved to golborne several yrs ago .he did like a pint .

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
whups have a good weekend,the same to all on WW.

Posted by: PeterP (6112) Report abuse
Whups sorry to hear about Ronnie RIP. We are a dying breed soon be no ex-pitmen left

Posted by: tuddy (895) Report abuse
Sad news again Brian. R.I.P.Ronnie.

Posted by: Campfire (576)   Report abuse
Ste - I honestly didn't know about Ronnie..really sad loss and my condolences to his family.
Ronnie was one of a rare breed of genuinely honest men, he had his principles and stood by them regardless of any intervention and/or influence from any quarter... A sad loss.
do you know the arrangement's for his funeral?

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
ste, if i get to know anything i,ll post it on here.

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
Ste ( campfire) good to hear from you best regards.

Posted by: Campfire (576)   Report abuse
hi Joe, hope all is well at your end???
Brian, I'm nipping in the Snooker club tomorrow, hoping to drop on Brian Cunningham. As soon as I hear anything, I'll post it here.

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
Ste fine have a good day pass on my regards to brian.last time I saw him was in the plodder developments Jimmy clarke was the deputy.

Posted by: PeterP (6112) Report abuse
Whups I was in the club last night and we where talking about when you played darts and snooker for the pit teams. One of the blokes was asking how old you where now

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
hi peter, the pics from both pit comps are on the golborne picture blog in the work section . i,m 60 next time . who was asking ? .

Posted by: PeterP (6112) Report abuse
Only know their 1st names John and Don

Posted by: Campfire (576)   Report abuse
graneyjoseph - Hi Joe, I do remember Jimmy Clark, he was once married to my best mate who became my Best man at my wedding and I was he's at his wedding. Jimmy once dropped us off in Liverpool, when me and my mate were going to the I of M for a week, we were only just turn 17 and Jimmy took us into Yate's Wine Lodge for a farewell drink and introduced us to the famous Aussi white wine and needlessness to say we missed our ferry.. Not seen Jimmy since he left the pit....

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
Ste I saw Jimmy when we was salvaging Golborne same old Jimmy bit of a character he was living in Southport he said,one of those people that left an indelible impression on people who met him,hope he is fine.

Posted by: PeterP (6112) Report abuse
Last time I saw Jimmy Clark he was half the man who worked at the pit. He was in Asda at Wigan riding round using a mobility scooter Crippled with bad joints in his hands and legs.

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
it maybe don barrow peter . he,s my age & went to the same school.

Posted by: Campfire (576)   Report abuse
PeterP - at a guess how old would Jimmy Clark be... he looked like a fifty year old when I was 18.. and that was in 1970

Posted by: PeterP (6112) Report abuse
Campfire I have no idea how old jimmy is now, Like every other ex-pitmen none of us are getting any youngerI was nearly 35 when I finished at Golborne in a fortnights time I am 60PS I now also live at Stubshaw like you

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
I wish Jimmy well he is a character the mines were full of them and we are all better for knowing them,

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
sorry to hear about ronnie prior ,regards jimmy clarke last saw him about 20 year ago in the Oak Tree on belle green lane ince,think he said he was living just outside southport at the time ,sad to hear hes not in the best of health he was indeed a character

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
I remember Jimmy came into the workshop at Golborne when we was salvaging .

Posted by: Campfire (576)   Report abuse
gentlemen - Ronnie Prior's service is at Wigan Crematoria on Friday at 15:30 confirmed.

Posted by: Campfire (576)   Report abuse
PeterP - give us a clue, do I know you???

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
been round to see dicky & passed on your message ste.

Posted by: Campfire (576)   Report abuse
Thanks Brian, much appreciated..Is he on the mend? and will he receive visitors??

Posted by: PeterP (6112) Report abuse
Campfire I was a Deputy at Golborne last job in charge of the FSV's better known to some has Peter Duck

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
hi Brian next time you see Dicky pass on my best wishes

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
will do col . yes he,s receiveing visitors.

Posted by: tuddy (895) Report abuse
The next Golborne Colliery ex miners meeting is on Wednesday 3rd of September at 7pm in Golborne Bowling Club.

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
tuddy pass on my regards lots of good memories of the people I met there,

Posted by: tuddy (895) Report abuse
Will do Joe.

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
thanks tuddy.

Posted by: PeterP (6112) Report abuse
When they where filling the shafts am I right in saying they screened part of the bonk and used the dirt to fill the shafts in and sold the coal

Posted by: chris southworth (545) Report abuse
Probably right Peter. There was a plan to screen and wash the tip while the pit was still working in the eighties.They invited contractors to come and take samples and put tenders in to work it but nothing ever came of it

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
for anyone who remembers jimmy a,hearn ( taffy) he passed away on saturday.

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
whups sad news .R.I.P taffy.

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
r i p taffy never new his name was jimmy a,hearn had some laughs with him top of l3 brew

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
do you remember him colin , walking abound with his belt slung over his shoulder coz of a "bad back".

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
certainley do brian ,do you remember him coming on days & having a set to with the oldish bloke who drove the haulage engine top of L3 [cant remember his name sure you will]niether of them wanted to go down brew it got quite heated with references to glass backs ect

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
it was ronnie prior colin.

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
both passed away now brian

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
yes they have colin. tannoy as well.

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
we are all getting older I left the mines 1991 aged 40 this november 63 time moves on alas.

Posted by: kayleigh (1161) Report abuse
whups---- Jimmy a'hearne died on thursday 28 august.

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
sad when a former miner passes,he obviously left an impression on the people who met him.Campfire your quiet where are you.?

Posted by: Campfire (576)   Report abuse
Hi Joe
Been in Hospital I'm afraid, ticker not to good at the moment but hopefully should get on the mend.

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
Hello Ste,sorry to hear that hope your recovery is good,take care regards.

Posted by: tuddy (895) Report abuse
That's a shock Ste, I never knew that rippers had hearts!

Only joking mate, best wishes for a full recovery.

Posted by: Campfire (576)   Report abuse
Thanks Joe & Ste, much appreciated... They wasn't very complimentary in the hospital though, apparently I'm over weight, I eat the wrong things, I drink to much and their not talking about tea...I don't do enough exercise, my mind is all messed up but because I don't smoke, I should make a full recovery. What a load of B***s

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
onwards and upwards Ste take it easy.

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
my uncle - norman frodsham who worked on the weighbridge passed away l/week . his funeral is at st wilfs ( stubshaw)on fri at 10 o,clock.

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
whups sorry to hear about your uncle ,I didnt know him personally but always a loss to lose someone close.

Posted by: tuddy (895) Report abuse
Sorry to hear that Brian.

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
thanx guys .did you ever go in the weighbridge ste wen you were on the lines ?.

Posted by: tuddy (895) Report abuse
No Brian, I didn't work on the lines long enough to get invited into the weighbridge, but I remember taking my pools coupon to someone who worked in there.

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
he was small ste , had a false leg which he got in an accident down the pit.

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
Sorry to hear about your uncle Brian ,I didnt know him never went in the weighbridge office , hope you and stey are both well

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
Colin welcome back to WW.

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
many thanks joe

Posted by: Campfire (576)   Report abuse
Hi Brian, sincere thoughts and wishes for the loss of your Uncle.

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
thanx guys.

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
one of my old workmates is coming down to newport with his wife on Tuesday,his name Ian Aldred ,Ste might remember him not seen him since 1986.

Posted by: Campfire (576)   Report abuse
Yes Joe, l do remember Ian, please pass on my best regards??

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
I will do that Ste.

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
Ste had 2 great days with Ian and Doreen,I passed on your regards,there was coaldust and stonedust everywhere really enjoyed it.

Posted by: Campfire (576)   Report abuse
Nice one Joe, its always nice to meet up with old friends and have a chat... I hope there was a few tipples of the amber necter being consumed during the workers consultative meeting ?? Joe, lately its seems that I don't see, bump into or speak to a lot old comrades, is it because we are getting no younger??

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
Ste it might be but Ian said bold miners holds events were people can discuss or ask about what benefits or claims for mining related injuries ,Ian and Doreen his wife came down Tuesday saw them twice talked about people we knew great time,go onto facebook Doreen is on request friend theres a picture of me and Ian and comments Ian would like to talk to you ,have a good weekend,let me know how you get on .

Posted by: tuddy (895) Report abuse
Ste, There's a miner's strike commemoration night at The Swinley Club in Wigan on November 14th. I'm sure you'll see some old faces there if you can make it.

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
thats a coincidence I celebrate my 63rd birthday on that day,if you go pass on my regards.

Posted by: Campfire (576)   Report abuse
Tuddy, will you be going on the 14th??

Posted by: tuddy (895) Report abuse
Yes I'll be there all being well.

Joe, I'll toast your health on the night.

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
tuddy have a great night I met an old workmate in newport talking memories best 2 days for a long time.

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
for anyone who remembers peter marrow who worked in the crumy at golborne . he died about 2 weeks ago . he was 47.

Posted by: tonker (18999)   Report abuse
Was he from Shevington?

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
R.I.P.peter,yes tonker he was from shevington ,him & his dad bernard were both good crown green bowlers

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
R.I.P. Peter ,I knew him from parsonage great lad no age at all very sad another one of us moving upstairs.

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
i beleive peter played for garswood hall .

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
whups he was a real nice bloke ,peter is sleeping with the angels god bless.

Posted by: dougie (3557)  Report abuse
I know it's a bad photo but I've croped it from a photo I took with Peter on, in 1984 anyone remember him like this another with his son
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Peters Dad taken same time as the first one if anyone knows him

Posted by: tuddy (895) Report abuse
That's a shock Brian, what was wrong with him? Not seen him since Golborne closed, I remember his dad as well, they were both keen crown green bowlers.

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
dougie one of the pictures of Peter shows a bloke J,Rowson is that Jimmy from st,helens?.tuddy I last saw him at parsonage,

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
morning joe ,its jimmy from leigh worked at golborne ,can you not get out the habit of getting up early

Posted by: PeterP (6112) Report abuse
I think most ex-pitmen still have the habit of waking up early I wake up about the same time has when I worked at the pit (about 5-30am)and its 25yrs since I finished at the pit

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
mornong Colin,PeterP,it is an habit I am quite happy getting up at that time never been one for sleeping in ,get up early go to bed 10-00ish,when I go out it is usually afternoons unless a special occasion,I grew up with a jimmy rowson from st,helens thought it was a coincidence seeing that picture ,have a good weekend .

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
hi ste . someone said he might have had a drink problem which contributed to his demise .

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
whups sad demise god forbid we go that way he was a decent bloke.

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
yes he was joe. and it is a sad case as he was so young.

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
whups my 63rd Christmas I hope for many more God willing.Merry Christmas to you and your family and every one on WW.

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
same to you joe . and my 60th next year.

Posted by: Campfire (576)   Report abuse
Brian - Your 60 next year, never have guessed it... you must have been brought up as a kid in a damp house !!!!

Only joking mate...

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
now ste less of that .

Posted by: Campfire (576)   Report abuse
Brian - how is Dickie Eck doing??

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
he,s ok by the sound of it . they are just converting his bathroom at present .

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
hi Brian ,glad Dickys doing ok ,by the way I thought you were 60 when you worked in L3 brew

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
Colin thats not very chrismassy ,how you doing.?

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
Good joe brian knows it's only said in jest

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
L3 brow could make anyone look 60 colin . but L19 top rd could make you feel 90 .especially wen the belts were stopped & you had to walk up to the florida shunt.

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
legend as it that Fran Cotton used to walk up all the steep tunnels as a choice to riding the conveyors.

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
Morning joe he had a donkey jacket with small strips is lead sowed in it to make it heavier

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
morning Colin.I started at old boston 1967 he was there with a lad surname Beard I think, they were student apprentices never liked mixing us .

Posted by: tuddy (895) Report abuse
Some more sad news I'm afraid, I got a phone call from Tommy Belshaw's son tonight, Tommy passed away on Monday. His funeral is on Christmas eve at Ince Parish Church at 10-15am.

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
RIP tommy

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
not sure if I knew him but sad loss at this time of year sad loss at any time R.I.P.

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
mornig Stey
was it young tommy that phoned you ,please pass on my condolances next time you speak to him

Posted by: tuddy (895) Report abuse
Hiya Colin, It was Gary who phoned me, I'll pass your condolences on to him.

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
Thanks stey

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
colin you are one of the best person I Met on this site proud to have met you MERRY CHRISTMAS ..the best person I worked with .

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
Many thanks joe I also enjoyed the pleasure of your company and a merry Xmas to you and yours

Posted by: evelyn (421) Report abuse
Colin and Joe, a very Merry Christmas and a Happy, Healthy New Year to you both. Evelyn and Don.

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
Hi Evelyn Same to you ,don and the rest of your family

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
hi Evelyn,Don ,Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you both and your families.

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
merry xmas for all of those who are left & those who are not here & their families.

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
Good sentiment brian

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
brian I to second that ,its been said before best years of my life working with the best people in world,MERRY CHRISTMAS everybody.

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
Goodnight God bless all ex pitmen and. Everyone else regardless of colour religion political persuision

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
well said colin.

Posted by: tonker (18999)   Report abuse
Oh, please!

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
nice manners tonker shame about everything else.

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
tonker must have a friend somewhere to praise his knowledge and experience in worldy ways.

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
colin,tuddy, dropped on an old golborner on friday . jimmy bond . do you remember him ? .

Posted by: tuddy (895) Report abuse
I remember Jimmy, I was talking to him in All Saints Catholic Club in Golborne after the anniversary walk last year. That was the first time that I'd seen him since the pit closed. Didn't he used to work on the door at Bluto's in Wigan?

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
Hi stey ,certainly do remember Jimmy ,he did work the doors but don't remember him working in wigan,,he also had a son Phil who started as an apprentice,phil had to transfer to point of air ,to finish his apprenticeship when the complex closed

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
phil worked at bold for a spell met up with him at coupe foundry higher walton he was working for demag the crane people

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
morning joe think that must have been a different Phil ,as i remember he was 1 of the last batch of apprentices they took on well after Bold had closed ,they hadnt come out their time when the complex shut

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
that might be right his dad was a tunneller not sure if it was british coal or tunnel contractors,Phil was still an apprentice when bold shut,

Posted by: Campfire (576)   Report abuse
Tuddy - I remember working in a Drivage with two film stars when I first transferred to Kidglove..
Jimmy Bond - known as James Bond 007 and he mate James Dean but cant think of the third blokes name. Do you?

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
was jimmy dean deputy? Ste

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
hr was in tom & gerrys in ashton on friday.

Posted by: PeterP (6112) Report abuse
Campfire was it not Sammy

Posted by: Campfire (576)   Report abuse
PeterP - I dont think so, as he also had the name of a film star.. Joe, the Jimmy Dean you are refering to maybe the Deputy from Bold who still lives in Ashton, just off Wigan Road. He had a son who also worked at Bold but jacked in when it shut, I think..

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
Ste remember them both jimmy the deputy was a nice bloke.there was a joe bond and eric winstanley both from ashton they worked in dosco driveage j122 south.

Posted by: tuddy (895) Report abuse
Campfire, there was a Kenny Williams (Kenneth Williams) A.K.A Geordie. Don't know if he worked in the headings though.

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
There was also an electrician Kenneth Williams

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
Colin I will vouch for that,when I met up with a former workmate from bold he said Kenny as not been seen or heard of for years,

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
kenny williams wasnt a lekky lads. he was on the haulage in the crummy till he did his face training.

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
I brian there were to kennys the one I mentioned transferred to golborne when bold shut ,he worked with me joe graney ,alan Holden & Ian Connor on the complex installation team we were some of the first to go over shortly after they cancelled the drivage in l3 return

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
no colin, this 1 was from golborne & played a bit of snooker. he onced played bullrt yed in the labour club 4 a few quid. he was very young wen he started at golborne.

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
Yes brian I knew them both

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
Colin we all remember bunker mouth as well.given the choice do it all again mo question.

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
Their was e few noisy ones

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
free entertainment Colin loved them all.

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whups
have you seen out of richard walker recently

Posted by: Campfire (576)   Report abuse
handsomeminer - I seen Richard Walker just before Christmas plodding up Gerard Street, still looked as though he was deep in thought as he was miles away with that blank look...

Joe - Joe Bond passed away about 12 Months ago, went his funeral at St Thomas's in Ashton and back to Stubshaw X Labour Club for some light refreashments. It was a good job it was Saturday the day after, with the head I had. He was another cracking lad who loved to socialise.

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
not seen him for years colin. hi ste , i see you sussed out that clown sir bob & his sarcastic remarks on the parsonage blog . he was 1 of those who said thatcher was right to shut pits down on another blog.

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
Thanks campfire,whips sir Bob obviously had an issue with miners ,either a Thatcherite or jealous ( not sure what of mind)

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
your right colin , but he tries to bullshit us & i believe he is a thatcherite .

Posted by: Campfire (576)   Report abuse
Can vouch for that gentlemen.. He's not on his own, theres more of them out in them there hills, as John Wayne once said. The hills being the 3 Sisters...

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
i know he,s not on his own ste there,s a lot on here.

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
Ste sad about joe bond nice decent bloke.

Posted by: Campfire (576)   Report abuse
He was Joe...I remember backing up for him at Bold with our Frank when he was working with Eric Winstanley and (cant think of the third mans name) but I see him ofton and have a chat. Anyway, on a Monday morning whilst we were pulling the steel in, you could smell the Burtonwood bitter coming out of the heading and it was all from Joe. Sadly missed...

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
Ste I cant think of the third blokes name either the future of the pit was in those two tuunels onegoing south the other north,shiny face worked down there as well(derek levay).

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
Hi joe what was shiny,s mate called at parsonage think his first name was brian but not sure

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
Hi Colin,that was Brian Baxter him and shiny came to bold when agecroft shut, two decent lads.both the same age as me they started at sandhole training centre.

Posted by: Campfire (576)   Report abuse
Hi Joe - don't recal shiny but do remember Brian Baxter, am I correct in assumimg that they all went into department / group and went around the North West, salvaging old faces and districts?

Going back to Joe Bond and Eric Winstanley, was the third man Jack Frodsham ???

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
Hi Ste,the salvage team was under the control of ex-bold deputy Jackie Mann(his son Sean worked at bold as well),I dont think Brian worked on the salvage team,he took redundancy when bold shut,I met up with him and shiny at parsonage they worked for ATC along with fitter Ray Sefton.your right about Jack Frodsham you did well remembering his name.shinys name was Derek Levay.

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Joe - I don't recall Derek Levay but must have known him.. remember Jackie Mann and his Son Sean/Shaun !! They come from around Abram way. Sean ended up working at Hindley Prison and moved to Fazackley Prison when G2 opened the cat2 prison and the last time I seen him and had a chat, which was ages ago, he was on 2 walking sticks after having a good hiding of 2 inmates who dragged him into the cell and pasted him. To my knowledge, he's never worked since.. and they call Stubshaw as being rough !!!!

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sad about shaun his dad was a good bloke the inmates no word to describe them.

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Was told yesterday that John Cupitt Ex-deputy had died only saw him in Asda a couple of weeks ago. RIP John

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
R. I. P. John ,deputy on the Florida faces then at pit bottom ,how old was he Peter & had he been ill

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Handsomeminer lead to believe he was 75. He had his right leg amputated above the knee about 3years ago but it did not stop him. Like I said I used to drop on him at Asda in Golborne and have a chatWas shocked to hear about his death

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
Ste shauns dad Jack died in the nineties I was told great bloke.

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hi peter iam I right remembering that John used to take visitors on tours underground occasionally & always insisted they went down brew to the florida faces for a good walk round

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Handsomeminer did the same myself

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good man peter

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
he was in the nursing home near the kings arms .he was a regular on tuesday nights at the cally wen freddie cunliffe & his band were on & he used to give em a song . RIP john.

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think it was john had the, pig pen ,put in at pit bottom when he was in charge their,do you remember singing ,stupid cupid, while we were penned in

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Handsomeminer - I dont recall the late deputy but R.I.P but certainly remember being herded into the "Pig Pen" at the pit bottom on my first day at Golborne after transferring over from Bold. Also recall that the Deputies didnt use the pen with us commoners. I wander why??

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
i do indeed colin.

Posted by: PeterP (6112) Report abuse
Being a deputy myself not going into the pig -pen was looked upon has a slight perk of the job.(like the mythical key to the exec toilet) It allowed the deputies to get into the cage 1st before the rest of the men. Once up the pit and you had cleared the lamp room the miners went for a shower and then to the canteen/home. The deputies had to make out a daily report and see the undermanager before going for a shower but most caught the same coaches as the miners so did not want to hold everyone up from getting home. More than once I let the coach go and caught a bus home before holding everyone back for me.

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
PeterP it happened at all the mines I worked at for the reasons you have said.

Posted by: tuddy (895) Report abuse
That's sad news about John, I remember him well.

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
this is for joe , dont be conned by that guy sir bob on the parsonage blog as he supported thatchers shut down of pits on another blog . campfire sussed him out straight away . he,s never been a "pit mon" , never wanted to be 1 & theres always a underlying skit on everthing to do with miners . BE WELL AWARE OF THIS GUY.

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whups - My sentiments also.. like I said before, "there more of them up in them there hills"

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
whups I am lots of things but not foolish thanks for your advice,

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no probs joe.spot-on ste.

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Brian - I was talking to a chap last week, who works for PHS and their regional offices are on the Industrial site where Kidglove used to be...Was stunned that he wasn't aware that the was once a Colliery there and even though he drove past the stone monument every day, he hadn't a clue what it was for. I was completely gob smacked...

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it dosnt surprise me ste . it really doesnt look like there has even been a pit there .

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
there must be some kind of concrete capping over the shafts I would think.

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There is Joe - but best still theres the stone Monument, which you cant miss on entering the site..
Couldnt believe it when he said he did'nt know !!!!

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Ste I have seen pictures of the monument,sad about the person not knowing golbornes history men died there and they will not be forgotten.

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After spending 20yrs working underground at Golborne it is sad that some of the people who now work on the enterprise park do not know there was a colliery on that site But this could be said about other colliery sites where men have worked and died. Our memories of the pits can only fade with time, we are all a dying breed and in a while there will only be a few memorials and history books to remind people that we where the King of coal

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
PeterP well put and true.

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I agree also PeterP...However, I was still gob smacked !! Call me old fashioned but I look up and I'm interested at the history of local industry, again some that are not as large as they were was in some cases gone all together also like the Mining Industry. What really got to me was that he only lives about 5 to 6 miles from his offices, aged around 30ish and passes the Monument daily.
He must go round in a daze !!!

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It's the same everywhere lads. People who go to the "Parsonage" Retail Park shopping at Sainsbury,DW Sports, Currys etc. aint got a clue what was there before unless of course they did work there. The same at Plank Lane. If you've been past there recently you'll know what I mean. All those "nice" new houses going up on the former pit yard clustered round the former site of 5 deep mine shafts now only marked by a yellow pipe sticking out of the ground and a green fence round it. I remember a chat I had with a site manager of a job I was on a few years ago which developed into almost a full blown row. He didn't believe me when I told him that the "nice little hill" which his kids liked to play on wasn't natural, but was the landscaped and planted former pit heap for Mosley Common. What really upset him was when I tried to tell him that the nice private estate he lived on was the site of the former pit and had two 1000yd deep shafts on it somewhere. I had to take into work next day some photos and maps to convince him. After we consulted Google Earth and compared it with the maps, he found out one of the shafts was about 20 yds off his house!!! Ha ha ha.

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
chris , do you remember i asked you about a lad called john who went on the lines as i could,nt remember his last name . was it white ? .

Posted by: chris southworth (545) Report abuse
John Prescott, John Sweeney?

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
this lad lived up rivington pike & used to come to the pit in a land rover .i know john sweeney it,s not him . did,nt he move to notts ?.

Posted by: tuddy (895) Report abuse
John moved to Daw Mill Colliery,in the midlands,but came back to Golborne after a year or two. whups, did the lad your thinking of end up working with big Danny?

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Whups, I know who you mean now. John Massey. Aye he came from Adlington originally, had a farming background. He bought an old cottage next to the canal at Red Rock,Haigh. Did it up, a lot of the work on his own. He came as a linesman with us, the surveyors, and we were going to get him on a course to be a surveying assistant. He was a bright lad and would have done okay but he developed some sort of problem with his inner ear which stopped him going down the pit due to the air pressure changes. He went into the medical center and trained as a medic and as far as I'm aware stayed till the pit shut.

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I know the lad you mean Chris, he qualified as a physiotherapist after the pit. I've bumped into him a few times, he told me a story about working in a hospital when Pey Cunningham came in for an appointment. When pey saw him he said "naw owd prater, what thy doin eer"? John answered Pey and started a conversation with him. As soon as pey left the doctor turned to John and and said "could you understand what that patient was saying"?

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
i think were on the right track . his hair was almost silver.

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
Tuddy,the John who worked with Big Danny was john jones from billinge experience working with them 2 ,they kept hanging colin farrel up on cable hooks

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
Colin,whups mentioned a john from golborne do you remember john sparrow from parsonage,?

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
no dont remember john sparrow joe what was his job

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
he worked in the developments ,Colin, also there was big Jimmy on the haulages and davelopments he helped us salvage cables opposite the NISBI bunker at parsonage,

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
jimmy catterall from hindley used to see him odd times but not seenhim for years now

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
Colin yes that was him the man,its funny how names come back to you,do you remember working on that big manrider at bickershaw when alan shields was in charge of the mechanical side and they threaded the rope on it and found it had a knot in it brilliant.

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Alan Sheilds is still going strong working as a volunteer at Astley Green Mining Mueseum,went with the family a few years age the carrages off that bickershaw manrider ,their were some interesting comments about me wrote on the insides,had a good laugh

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Joe do you remember at parsonage Eddy Mac trying to cut that rope with a blunt chisel and that big nowty fireman blowing his top with him ,happy days

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Colin,Eddy Mac what a guy,so your famous in a museum well done you should of announced yourself signed autographs, good old memories,alan shield we was putting some switch gear in a substation using a turfor I pulled the rope tight tripping alan lots of nice words,

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it wasnt very complimentary

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
i think that chris & tuddy are right . it was the ear think that twigged with me.

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
Colin not many people have their names in a museum ,claim to fame and I know that man.

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
quite right joe

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Colin you and your family have a great weekend,me myself my friend I met down here in newport south wales died Monday morning ex=para SAS served in the Falklands 60yrs old died heart attack didnt get chance to say farewell,lifes a bugger,GOD BLESS GRAHAM.,I will get bladdered tonight.

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That's sad joe ,RIP graham,we,ll have a drink to his memory

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Colin thanks for that message.

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wen john worked in the florida shunt with jack turner & harold peters they used to call him "palomino" because of his white hair. do u remember him chris or tuddy ? .

Posted by: chris southworth (545) Report abuse
Aye Whups. see my post above. I went to his wedding at Adlington.

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
had some good meals around adlington met some great people .would like to go back up the there some time.

Posted by: tuddy (895) Report abuse
whups, I remember all three of them very well, not seen Harold since he finished.

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
Harold and jack golborne legends

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
just wondering how he,s going on chris . do you ever see him as i cant recall seeing him at any of the walks ? .

Posted by: chris southworth (545) Report abuse
I've no idea, Brian. Haven't seen him since I left Golborne in 86.

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
pity that chris.

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campfire,colin hayes said he seen a guy that worked at golborne that came from bold on tv this morning. he cant put his last name to him but he says he thinks his 1st name was ronnie & lived in old road. he says he worked with you ? do you know of him ? .

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(Comment removed because it broke the rules)

Posted by: PeterP (6112) Report abuse
Tonker even though we comment about the pit on here don't forget it is also a family site please censor your wording we all know what it means

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
as tonker says there was some bad people in the mines but their insignificance puts them beyond being mentioned,sometimes going up in the cage when the overspeed came on and the cage bounced up and down lot of grown men to scared to speak nervous comments being made,the winder was a bad man then,,but not a real bad man just at the time we was in cage bouncing up and he was.

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
Well said Peter

Posted by: Campfire (576)   Report abuse
Tonker - there were a lot of nasty men in ALL the pits where I worked, best to remember the decent ones dont you think?

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whups - it could be Ronnie Hill.. he lives on Old Road next to the bait shop. Any ideas why he was on the telly ??? I worked with him at weekends at Bold, again at weekends at Golborne and believe it or not..again at weekends at Parsonage. The pair of us had high living standards

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hatfield colliery closes today yorkshire pit but 2 left goodluck to the yorkshire lads.

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Didn't know their was still 2 left Joe sad really

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Colin I didnt but apparently there is.

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ste, it was on a morning program called ask the council. he was asked wot he thought of some new center in wigan.colin thinks it,s him.

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
there was a programme on bbc wales last night about the last deep mine in wales being mothballed maintenance only,they also mentioned kellingley in yorkshire sad times, a lot of people are calling for an inquiry into orgreave coking plant police actions good luck to them.

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Joe I was talking to Roy Southworth ex-overman yesterday. He is now 78 and like the rest of us plodding along 22yrs ago he had a triple heart by-pass and earlier this year he had a heart attack. He was telling me Ronnie Brown ex-overman had passed away, RIP Ronnie. Like I have said before we are a dying breed

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PeterP good morning,I remember both Ronnie and Roy well known officials at Golborne ,I hope Roy gets better my sympathies to Ronnies family,we are all getting older and it is a bonus waking up each day myself I will be 64 in November,my regards to you and all my ex-workmates ,my mining days were the best years for sure.

Posted by: chris southworth (545) Report abuse
PeterP, I see Roy at the Latics regularly with his son David. Also Jimmy Crooks.

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
Have they lost their marbles

Posted by: PeterP (6112) Report abuse
Handsomeminer put it down to old age more than anything else, some one as to go to football

Posted by: chris southworth (545) Report abuse
Ha ha ha lads.Better than watching 26 fat lads chasing an egg!
I was talking to a chap a few weeks ago from Clock face area. He knows Geoff Blackburn. Says Geoff is still knocking about.

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
How old will geoff be ,must be knocking on now

Posted by: evelyn (421) Report abuse
Hi Chris, fancy meeting you on here.Hope Jimmy Crooks is OK, please give him our regards next time you see him . Hope he still remembers us(Evelyn and Don--as if I need to tell you) Had a brilliant holiday in Austria with him and Marlene and of course in later years used to watch Fred Dibnah series which Jimmy and Alf helped out. Regards to Joe and Handsome hope are OK too boys . Don't come on WW too much now because of the likes of Tonker, who I can see hasn't changed much with the comments that followed . I can't see what he said because I blocked him months ago, but it was obviously unsavoury as per usual.Take care all of you.

Posted by: chris southworth (545) Report abuse
Hello Evelyn, I would never have connected the name if you hadn't mentioned it. Jimmy looked in fine fettle last time I saw him at a game last season. I'll certainly mention your names to him. How did you get to know him? I thought Don spent most of his time at Parsonage? That Tonker is an idiot. He knows a little thing about allsorts and tries to tell people who know a lot more than him that they are wrong. I've had to put him right a couple of times on WW about mining subjects which he was spouting his half baked theories about. Anyway, I'll see you both in 3 weeks.
Handsome miner, Geoff would be in his 80's now, I reckon.
Quite a few years after I'd finished in the pits, late 1990's I think, I was working on a job near Prescot. One afternoon, the job finished early and I thought, I'll take a different way home.So I went and had a look at what was left at Sutton Manor, where I did about 12 months. I then carried on through Clock Face along Gorsey Lane where I knew Geoff lived.Sure enough, there he was up a ladder painting his downspout. I stopped for a chat. That was about 4 o clock. I left at 6.30!!!

Posted by: tuddy (895) Report abuse
Hiya Chris,
Is it the same Geoff Blackburn? I heard that he'd passed away a couple years back. I seem to remember him saying that he was 50 when he left Golborne, that was about 1986, so he would'nt be far of 80 now.

Posted by: chris southworth (545) Report abuse
The chap I was talking to was the son of an owd Sutton Manor mon. He lived near Geoff at Clock Face and said he knew him as soon as I mentioned his name. I can only take it at face value, Steve. I reckoned he would be in his 80's.

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
good luck to you all,I have met some great people and wish them all the best and long life ,talk soon.

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
great people,Evelyn all the best to you and Don great people god bless ,.

Posted by: tuddy (895) Report abuse
Chris,
Jimmy Crookes will know if Geoff Blackburn's still around.
I'm sure we could fill a thread with tales about Blackburn,I had a couple of run ins with him, as did most men who worked for him, but you certainly knew where you stood with him. Best wishes to him if he's still around.

Posted by: chris southworth (545) Report abuse
Next time I see Jimmy or Roy at Latics, I'll ask em.

Posted by: chris southworth (545) Report abuse
Tuddy, spoke to Roy at latics on Wednesday. He said Geoff Blackburn has been dead for at least 10 years. Seems I was given duff info.

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
I dont know about the rest of you but I seem to attend more funerals than weddings these days,while it is good to see the people at the funerals I have not seen for a long time,rather meet in better circumstances.

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
Your right joe enjoy life were well over the half way line

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
Colin speaking for myself twothirds gone now I will certainly enjoy the last third,good to hear from you talk soon.

Posted by: tuddy (895) Report abuse
Chris, Geoff Blackburn may be gone but he'll never be forgotten. They certainly broke the mould when they made him. R.I.P.Geoff.

Posted by: Campfire (576)   Report abuse
Ste..I only know Geoff Blackburn briefly but what a character !!!

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
Evelyn if your reading this thread vinny kay is on facebook now,type is name then wigan,

Posted by: Perkin Warbeck (1448) Report abuse
Anybody remember Ethel she operated the telephone switchboard?

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
As you know I do perkin

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Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
well done tonker is that you,

Posted by: tuddy (895) Report abuse
Campfire, Did you hear the tale about when Geoff Blackburn was in the pit bottom office trying to use the phone when somebody started using a jigger pick in the roadway outside. Most under managers would have asked them to be quiet. Geoff ripped the office door of it's hinges and threw it at him.

Posted by: Campfire (576)   Report abuse
Exactly Tuddy.. what a character he was !!!

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
we all met characters and we would like to keep them in our memories god bless.

Posted by: chris southworth (545) Report abuse
Ah, but he did have a "soft" side to him.Two days after the Plodder explosion, I was in the Plodder return at the top of P2 Return heading, doing some survey work for the investigation. Geoff came up the brow and sat down for a rest. He said "come and have a minute". So I sat and had a chat with him.I could see he was absolutely shattered. He sort of poured his heart out about what had happened and told me about having gone through the same thing before at Hapton Valley.I think that the Golborne explosion affected him deeply and he was a different man after.

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
Chris I never met a pitman that didn't have a soft side

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
Colin your right there.never met anyone to match working with a miner.

Posted by: chris southworth (545) Report abuse
True words spoken by both of you.

Posted by: tonker (18999)   Report abuse
"Here We Go, Here We Go, Here We Go" ..... A great set of lads, every last one of 'em!

What d'you mean, sarcasm?

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
tonker shut up these people worked in the mines did you if so remember them with respect.

Posted by: tonker (18999)   Report abuse
There was a lot of good men working in the pits. Just as there was a lot of good men working in every other industry.
However, there was also a fair number of out and out shithouses who I wouldn't piss on if they was on fire.

That's the way things go in life, tha'knows.

Yes, I worked for the NCB. 1974 until 1986. Couldn't get out of there quick enough. It was great!

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
12 years not very quick , why so long

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
because he was a slow mover and unemployable best regards tonker,

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
Just heard the sad knees that Randy Aaron passed away late last week ,I know it's not strictly a topic for golborne colliery but a lot of the lads that went over to plank lane will remember him R.I.P.Randy

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
R.I.P. Randy what a character he was,Colin do you remember the time we was sat on the plodder manrider talking about cooking chicken and Randy said we mustnt forget to take the gibbons out before we cooked it.

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
cant remember him colin ? .

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
I do Joe knew randy round ince & hindley a real character ,many tales to be told about him,,,brian he worked on the haulage at plank lane wasn't the worst darter in the world either

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
still cant remember him colin. maybe it,s 1 of those that if you saw a pic of him i,d might know him.

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
just to let you know guys that roy southworth died last tuesday . i have put it on the other blog.rip roy.

Posted by: PeterP (6112) Report abuse
R.I.P Roy

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
that is sad news respects and thoughts to his family.R.I.P. Roy.

Posted by: Campfire (576)   Report abuse
I was talking to Dave (Roy's Son) at the Latics game on Saturday and gave him my mobile so he can advise me of the arrangements for his Dads funeral...He is away next week and the funeral may be when he gets back.

I don't want to miss the funeral, so could any WW member post the arrangements when they hear anything ???? Ta..

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
ste was talking to dean michell & he says it could be a couple of weeks.

Posted by: Campfire (576)   Report abuse
thanks Brian... if you hear anything, please let us know?

Posted by: Campfire (576)   Report abuse
Dave Southworth has contacted me this evening and advised that the funeral for his Dad (Roy) in on Monday 4th April at Wigan Crematorium, commencing at 13:00, then moving on to Golborne / Parkside Rugby Club.
I believe the club is just past Golborne High School and the left and signposted..

Posted by: PeterP (6112) Report abuse
Whups was talking to Richard Walker today not seen him since the pit finished found out he lives just round the corner from me

Posted by: Campfire (576)   Report abuse
PeterP..I've also seen Rick walking a dog around Stubshaw but only for the last 6 Months are so....

Posted by: PeterP (6112) Report abuse
Campfire he said the dog is only 8month old

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
Hi Peter if you see Richard give him my regards not seen him for years

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
Campfire your correct about the location of the rugby club next time you see David please pass on my condolences

Posted by: Campfire (576)   Report abuse
Handsomeminer. I will pass on your condolences, I've never been in the club but sure that I have seen the sign for it on the main road...thanks for the confirmation.

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
.gents just wondering if your aware of a group on Facebook it's called..UK miners pension scheme association for justice and fair play,it's one we should all be getting behind

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
Colin your right with what you say.

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
guys if anyone sees richie then tell him to give me a call as he wants some info from me.

Posted by: tuddy (895) Report abuse
Golborne ex miner's meeting, Wednesday, 4th May, Golborne bowling club, 7pm. All welcome.

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
Ste enjoy and pass on my best regards.

Posted by: tuddy (895) Report abuse
Will do Joe.

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
hi guys , was talking to ronnie manship on saturday & he says that carl bryan ( young ponzer) isnt very well & it does,nt look good .if i hear owt else i,ll let you know.

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
Brian sad news I wish him well.

Posted by: PeterP (6112) Report abuse
Whups hope Carl gets well soon. Has to the (young) we are all 27yrs older than when the pit finished and the passage of time does not stand still

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i dont think he will peter from wot ronnie manship said .

Posted by: PeterP (6112) Report abuse
Sorry to hear that

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David Annaroue Ex fitter has died over the week endRIP David

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
RIP David

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
R.I.P. David.

Posted by: sammys (16)  Report abuse
Did he work on c6 Manrider with Tommy horrich Scouse bloke remember him rip david

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i think he might have done sammy.

Posted by: PeterP (6112) Report abuse
David's funeral at Wigan crem on Monday 8th August at 2-00

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
time moves on my sympathies to his family gone but memories never .

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
Well said Joe

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
Thanks Colin.

Posted by: tonker (18999)   Report abuse
There once was a miner named Dave,
who kept a dead whore in a cave.
She was ugly as shit,
and missing one tit,
but think of the money he saved!

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
you was related then tonker.what a lovely couple you must of made,did you qualify in joined up writing,?

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
what a plonker you are

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Joe you get used to Tonker I think

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Peter you are right but he is insulting our friends,he obviously as none .

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
hi guys , anyone know how carl bryan (young ponzer) is doing. colin have you seen gary melling yet ? .

Posted by: PeterP (6112) Report abuse
Whups was talking to Brian Cunningham yesterdays says Young Ponzer got 3-6months making the most of it while he can

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
i heard he wasnt to good peter.

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
Brian not seen Gary all summer my turning out habits change when the cricket season finishes I,ll probably see him over winter I,ll mention you to him

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
ok colin.is he still playing darts ? .

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
Don't thinks he's played for a few years now Brian theirs not enough pubs left to run a league now

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
that,s very true colin.

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
best regards to you all,

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
hi guys, sad news i,m afraid. karl bryan (young ponzer) has passed away.

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
sad news Brian another of our brothers gone sympathies to his family R.I.P. Karl godbless,

Posted by: tuddy (895) Report abuse
That is sad Brian, I last saw him about two years ago, I think he was working as a carpet fitter. Didn't he work on the haulage with Parky before he had to go on the surface? Somebody gave him the nickname Whippet Yed! I wonder if his Dad, Ponzer, still around? R.I.P. Karl.

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
yes your right ste.

Posted by: PeterP (6112) Report abuse
RIP Karl

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
i think his dad jimmy ponzer is still with us.

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
RIP Karl

Posted by: Campfire (576)   Report abuse
Was speaking to Brian Cunningham only yesterday and he told me the sad news...R.I.P matey, what a character!!!!!

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
Sad news,respects to his family.

Posted by: chris southworth (545) Report abuse
A mate of mine from Golborne days was out at a function on Sat night. Found himself sat next to Mr & Mrs Barry Chadwick.
Needless to say many stories were related that night with a good old sprinkling of effing and jeffing.
He's gonna give me a full roundup next time we have a pint.
No doubt a few on here will have memories, good and bad of Chaddy.

Posted by: tuddy (895) Report abuse
I think Chady was the manager when Jimmy Higham got himself into trouble for jumping onto a moving manrider train which H.M. inspector of mines and quarries was travelling on. Jimmy was hauled before Chady and everybody thought it would result in his sacking. But some shrewd negotiations by the National Union of Mineworkers got his sentence reduced to a two week suspension. Jimmy's response to Chaddy was, "Can we wait until't fishing season starts before I'm suspended"?

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
only in the mines what was the result.Ste ?

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
Thought Chaddy was a good manager , Jimmy was a rum un not seen him for about 15 year have you tuddy

Posted by: tuddy (895) Report abuse
Joe, The outcome was, he kept his job and caught three carp!

I haven't seen Jimmy for years either Colin. Don't know where he's got to.

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
Thanks Ste

Posted by: chris southworth (545) Report abuse
Apparently Chaddy was in good form t'other neet, telling stories about pit. He's 77 now.

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
thats good news for people who know him.

Posted by: GOLDEN BEAR (2923)  Report abuse
THIS IS FOR ( WHUPS ) I have wrote some where asking you did you know of or hear about my dad and my brother who used to work at the QUAKER HOUSE COLLIERY?? i said something like my dad had an accident there a roof came in on him he had just started on face getting better money when this happened end result he ended up working on top.

The owner was a DONALD ANDERSON dad said he was a fair bloke ,and whilst dad lost his face job Donald helped him by asking him to come to his house in PARBOLD and work his garden on SATURDAY mornings for a few bob extra. Then my brother started there his name was WILFRED WINSTANLEY
my dad was ( THOMAS thom) other nmames you may know JIMMY HARRISON, BOB( robert) WITHERINGTON JUST a few . I have read somewhere you or somebody else talked about miners getting payouts for the dust problem ,but they had to have been N.C.B. employees is that true???? SO i hope you respond WHUPS/

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
answered your blog on quaker house GB

Posted by: tuddy (895) Report abuse
Golborne ex miner's meeting, Wednesday, 7th December, 7pm, at Golborne Community Bowling Club. All welcome.

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
All the best for Xmas and new year to all freinds and colleagues

Posted by: PeterP (6112) Report abuse
HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ONE AND ALL

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
guys, nobby clark is organising a golborne pit reunion at the hingemakers in ashton on the 24th march around 6ish .anyone who is interested get yourself down there.

Posted by: Campfire (576)   Report abuse
Brian, l have been passing the message on, looking forward to it...

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
that,s all we can do ste.

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (1757) Report abuse
whupsy

Doo YOO think that Theresa May is the new Iron Lady, the new Margaret Thatcher



Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
You dont need to answer that Brian.

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
i dont know what it is joe as he,s on ignore.

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (1757) Report abuse
I wondered why I didn't get a Christmas card from whupsy

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
still on ignore 2 stroke.

Posted by: spud1 (1638) Report abuse
I only worked for the NCB for 12 years,but I was lucky to have seen things,and worked on more machines,than most folk who did 40 years in the pits.

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
spud1 best regards.

Posted by: aussie94 (1576) Report abuse
All the best to hardworking miners ALL over England. A lot of my ancestors where amongst the ranks you proud men . I am very proud of all of you and what you did to create the world we now live . I salute you all.

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
aussie94 well said.

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
i think not spud1. why after working in the pits are you putting such a downer on them ? .

Posted by: spud1 (1638) Report abuse
Iv'e not put a downer on anyone whups,I just said that I had seen and worked on more machines in 12 years,than most folk who had done 40 years,and most of these where at Parkside,where everything below ground was air powered for the first couple of years,to the electric Kopie winders,and also a spell has an apprentice at Walkden yard workshops where most mining machines ever made were repaired,even the locos had new tyres fitted there.

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
so wot your not on your own there r u ? .more that most folk who worked down the pit in 40 yrs you said. walkden yard workshop.not much work there is there.try dragging arches or methane pipes for a living.

Posted by: spud1 (1638) Report abuse
Why on Earth would I want to drag arches,and methane pipes.

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
you were probably made to do light work were you.

Posted by: broady (12646)   Report abuse
If you could type like those at Anderson House you keep on about for more bonus would you have done so?? How many years did you actually work down the pit? Did you work again once Golborne closed?

Posted by: spud1 (1638) Report abuse
I have never done light work Whups,I served my 5 years apprenticeship,including 5 years at Leigh and Wigan mining college,after 12 years I realised pits were closing quite quickly,so I left for a much better paid job.

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
so you have always done light work. if you could keep your nose out broady & stay on the other side of canada & that,s probably why you did a runner to avoid doin a bit.and as for the pit , a lot more that you .told you before broady that people who do a runner & leave this country have no right to comment as they gave up that right when you left & did 1.

Posted by: broady (12646)   Report abuse
As you notice what you have " told me before" means zilch. If you did one hour in the mines it is obvious that you spent more time than me there. I would say that before I came to Canada I worked and paid into the system more years than you have.

Posted by: spud1 (1638) Report abuse
Whups I have never done "light" work,I was a fitter not an electrician.

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
and another thing this is our blog for golborne miners & not for the likes of you who try & hijack the blog. your not welcome on here with your snide remarks about any miner or the likes of spud1 . if you think you can slag off me or anyone who uses this blog you have another thing coming & i,m sure the guys on here will tell you that.you,ve paid jack shit more that me as i,m still here paying mine & not hiding out in canada paying zilch. so do 1.

Posted by: broady (12646)   Report abuse
Who says it is for Miners. It was asking the name of a pit. I have utmost respect for miners and have made no snide remarks. You are actually attacking a fellow miner above because he hadn't dragged equipment about.

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
we say it is. he says he worked on machines more than miners did in 40yrs. he only did 12yrs in the mines .like ive told you your not welcome on our blog. and your a bit of a stalker too as your following me around.so telling me about typing & anderton house typist or asking me what i did after the pit shut isnt derogotary ? .

Posted by: broady (12646)   Report abuse
No. I have been asked similar questions on WW in the past. Check how many times you refer to me doing " a runner" if you want to mention derogatory. How do I know about the typists?? You have mentioned it a few times.

Posted by: spud1 (1638) Report abuse
Whups,I believe you had not even started school when I started working for the NCB.

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
it depends on how old you are now.

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
guys iv,e heard a whisper that jonny goulding who worked with harold in L3brow has passed on . but dont hold me to it as i,m not sure myself if the info is genuine ? . maybe someone who lives in the chorley area may know something.

Posted by: spud1 (1638) Report abuse
Whups,I was born in 1939,I believe you were born in 1954-1955!

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
I was born 14-11-51 and left school on 17-03-67 Paddys day ,50years this Friday celebration looming .

Posted by: aussie94 (1576) Report abuse
A warm G'Day to all the great men and women who worked in the coalmines , you created the wealth that is the UK today .
Did you get appreciation , NO . 'Where you thanked NO.
Publicaly vilified by a corrupt PM YES.
Stand Tall you good people , my ancestors worked with you , I am proud to be part of you.

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
I,ll have a couple of pints for you and paddy joe

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
colin did you read the posting i put on about jonny goulding ? .

Posted by: spud1 (1638) Report abuse
Well,how old are you whups?

Posted by: PeterP (6112) Report abuse
Spud1 Whups will be 62 on 20th June

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
Colin thanks for your comment.

Posted by: spud1 (1638) Report abuse
Thanks Peter,I reckon there were only about 6 or 7 pits left in the area in 1970,and there were around 30, maybe more in 1955.

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
Yes I did brian ,I dropped on Alan Parkinson over the weekend he said he had heard Johnny had been suffering with Parkinson's decease but hadn't heard about him passing away ,I have no contact with anyone from that area sowe can only hope for the best

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
ok colin. keep your ears open. if you hear owt then let me know.

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Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
spud1 there was actually 13 pits open in 1970 .including lyme pit & wood pit in haydock . silverdale & hapton valley . cronton ,point of ayr ,sutton manor,parkside,bold,golborne,bickershaw,parsonage,agecroft,all which came under the banner of the nothwest coalfields.

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Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
wasting your time 2 stroke your still on ignore.

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Posted by: spud1 (1638) Report abuse
Fair enough whups I agree with you,but I was only including the ones close to our local area,there may have been well over a hundred working pits in 1955 in the area you have used.

Posted by: PeterP (6112) Report abuse
Haydock Male Voice Choir at St Thomas's Church Golborne tonight 7-30 entrance fee £5.In memory of the 10 men killed in the explosion 38 years ago on the 18th March 1979.

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
38 years still got a lot of memories for lots of the mining community.

Posted by: retep1949 (366) Report abuse
Came across some old diaries belonging to a Mr Samuel Smith who I think was an Electrical Engineer for the N.C.B. One entry on 13 Jan 1968 reads called outt to Golborne at 7.15am.Main fan OCB had"blown up" injuring the electrician who was stopping the fan.Brush engineers brought on site.New OCB provided and commenced installation. The entry for14Jan 1968 reads Golborne all day.Fan running 9.15pm on load.Proved to be methane explosion.Methane percolated into switch via cable duct.I wonder if anyone remembers this incident from nearly 50 years ago?

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
Whups ,sorry can't make Friday's reunion Iam down Kent rest of week .hope you have a great night please pass on my regards to the rest of the lads

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
enjoy your time in Kent Colin ,hope the weather is good for you.

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
ok col.

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
i wont be there either colin. health matters.

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
look after yourself Brian.

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
try my best joe. it,s the old ticker trouble.

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
I think we all have health worries goes with old age in my case,

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Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
Hope your feeling better Brian Joes right nothing gets better with age any update on Johnny goulding

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
it could be something in it col as nobby says that johnny got parkinsons.if i hear owt i,ll let you know.

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Posted by: PeterP (6112) Report abuse
Heard today Tommy Ainscough from Stubshaw Cross as passed away over the week end.May he Rest in Peace

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
Sad news when another miner passes on .R.I.P.

Posted by: tuddy (895) Report abuse
Sorry to hear that Tommy has passed away, I worked with him on the Plodder faces in the bottom stable. Do you know when his funeral is Peter?

Posted by: PeterP (6112) Report abuse
Tuddy Tommy's funeral at St Wilfreds RC church Stubshaw Cross Weds 26th's at 12-30

Posted by: tuddy (895) Report abuse
Thanks Peter.

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
hi guys sorry to be the bearer of bad news again . terry cave has passed away.

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
That's a shame R I P Terry

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
R.I.P. Terry, speaking for myself I am in gods waiting room but not yet hopefully.best regards to everyone of my friends.

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
joe were all in gods waiting room & i,m trying my best to delay it LOL . but terry had really gone off the rails & booze got a hold of him.apparently he,d been undiscovered for about 3 weeks.

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
That's a real shame Brian ,he really was a nice bloke I know he had quite a troubled past with his X missus I worked with terry a lot had a lot of good times

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
i know colin but he had just given up.

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
to die on your own and not to be found for weeks that is a sad reflection on life

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
your right joe but that,s how it was for terry.

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1294) Report abuse
Whups ,any news on terry caves funeral

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
not yet col . i,ll let you know if i hear owt.

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
doesnt look to good for terry,s funeral guys. they cant find his estranged daughter & it looks as if wigan council might have to bury him in a paupers grave ? .

Posted by: PeterP (6112) Report abuse
Unfortunately if the Council find his daughter then they can pressurise her into paying the funeral costs even though she may of not seen him for years and may not be able to pay for the funerallet her grieve and get on with her life and let the council bury him.Sad times indeed.

Posted by: tuddy (895) Report abuse
On Saturday, 1st July, at 2pm, in Peter Kane Square, in Golborne. Golborne ex miner's association will be unveiling commemorative name plaques to the men who were killed in the explosion in 1979. There will be a small ceremony, All are welcome.

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
Ste that is a very fitting memorial to the men who lost their lives .I hope the local papers cover this.

Posted by: whups (2346)  Report abuse
just had the angiogram & everything ok. a load of my mind.

Posted by: tuddy (895) Report abuse
Good news that Brian, you'll soon be fit enough for a stroll up L.3. brow.

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4574)   Report abuse
some of those brows in the mines were lung busting.

Posted by: chris southworth (545) Report abuse
Ha ha ha the famous L3!

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