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St Helens Mining Tech On North Road
Started by: GrahamK (444) Report abuse
Anybody remember any of the teachers from St Helens Mining Tech on North Road? I can remember Mr Devanie who lived behind the town hall in St Helens and taught electrics, Mr Pownall who taught mining along with Mr Peter Dooley. Their was also a Scotsman from Orrell Mr McCallister was his name I think.

Posted by: tuddy (897) Report abuse
It's McMillan GrahamK, Alister McMillan. Other mining lecturers I remember are: Alex Pownall, Nick Lythwinenko, Mr Howsley, Viv Quick,there was also one lecturer who became mayor of Wigan,can't remember his name.

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1298) Report abuse
mr dumican mechanical , mr strettle electrical,mr holgate ?, mr saunders electrical

Posted by: tuddy (897) Report abuse
Just remembered the lecturer who became mayor of Wigan, it was Ken Pye. Others I can remember are: Joe mulligan, Mr Moyers,& Mr Ashton, electrical, Roy Hughes,Mechanical.

Posted by: tonker (19029)   Report abuse
Mr Holgate was from Beech Hill and, I think, is Sheena's dad (Riverside).

Bob Saunders was a rum jockey, but not as rum as Pee Dooley. He was a bloody crackpot!


I'm sure I've told this tale before, but it's funny, so I'll tell it again!

One afternoon, we were at Notre Dame Mining College, Crab Street, St.Helens, having Mr.Dooley for Mining Science.
We were all waiting in the corridor outside the classroom door when he arrived (as nowt as nast, as always) and someone had decided to knock a matchstick into the door lock for a laugh (I think it was Johnny Baldwin, from Pemberton).

When Dooley tried to get the key into the lock and discovered the knocked in matchstick, he threw an almighty wobbler!
Everybody was sniggering, which made him go bright purple. He shouted, "Next F***** mon 'as laughs at me 'll think t'F***n' slopstone's geet up an' smacked thee int' F***n' gob"! Then he just smashed his way through the door, shoulder first, without unlocking it!

You can imagine, everyone went quiet and there wasn't a murmer throughout the lesson.
Those of you who know him won't be at all surprised!

Posted by: tuddy (897) Report abuse
Dose anybody remember the name of the pub in the side street next to North Road College? It had a bar billiards table and boxing photo's in the vault.

Posted by: tonker (19029)   Report abuse
Travellers!

Posted by: tuddy (897) Report abuse
Is it still there?

Posted by: Anne (3129)  Report abuse
How far are you all going back. I remember my husband talking about a maths lecturer, name of Swift. Early 1960s

Posted by: tonker (19029)   Report abuse
No, it's long gone! I mentioned it the other day, on Parkside Colliery thread, 21st December, @ 18:12!

Posted by: tuddy (897) Report abuse
Shame that tonker, I never mastered that bar billiards game.

Anne, I started there in 1975.

Posted by: doodle (59) Report abuse
Were you in the same class as John Baldwin Tonker,only asking because John was in my year and you stated previously that you were at Old Boston in 1976,John would have been 1975.

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4580)   Report abuse
Bob Saunders from billinge I remember mr Dooley ex manager or something like that

Posted by: tonker (19029)   Report abuse
Doodle, yes, I was in the same year as Johnny Baldwin, but not in the same group. He was mechanical, me electrical.
His brother, Ste Baldwin, also a fitter, was a year in front. Along with Niel (tweet) Williams, David Scott etc.!

Posted by: PeterP (6150) Report abuse
I attended St Helens College in the town centre in 1969 up on the 4th floor overlooking Beechams on one side and the hairdressing dept on the other sideIn 1970 they moved the mining section to the old convent on North Road. We caused bother with the staff because we wanted to finish 10 mins before time so we could walk the extra distance to the station to catch the train. Told staff if we missed the train the next one was 30 mins later and would be full by the time it got into St HelensRemember the travellers rest pub, only pub I knew with the dart board over an open fire. Also there was another pub on the other side of north rd going back towards the town which had sawdust on the floor

Posted by: mancunian (14) Report abuse
Tonker,you mentioned Bob Saunders who was a lecturer at St Helens college.Soon after he retired age 60yrs he died suddenly with a heart attack.

Posted by: chris southworth (545) Report abuse
I did my ONC at St.Helens,the 6 months block release course,(6 mths at tech,6 mths at pit)1972-74.I can remember Bob Dickie,I think he was head lecturer,Viv Quick,Alastair Mcmillan and a fella called Toft,I think, who used to come up from the main college to teach us Maths.Viv Quick taught Mining Science,Bob Dickie surveying and "Mac" taught Geology.A cracking bloke was Alastair. He used to organize field trips to Castleton in Derbyshire using the Notre Dame Convent's minibus.They were joint expeditions with the 6th form convent girls!!! Enough said.I used to get a lift to college off Derek Bennett,picking up Lawrence Mchrystal on the way at Platt Bridge.Other "potential managers" in the class that I can remember were, Neil Wilkinson and Peter Smith.

Posted by: chris southworth (545) Report abuse
I've just remembered about Peter Dooley.I never knew him at St Helens,he might have retired when I was there.I heard about him back at the pit though.He was Undermanager or Deputy Manager at Golborne in the 60's.One story I can remember is about him taking two blokes from out the pit round the back of the canteen and giving them a good hiding.

Posted by: rio caroni (5077)  Report abuse
Is Sent Ellins in Wigan

Posted by: PeterP (6150) Report abuse
Rio carini sent Helens is not in Wigan but it seems half of wiganers went to college there

Posted by: tonker (19029)   Report abuse
If you count having an 01942 telephone code and a WN postcode as 'being in Wigan', then I'm afraid a large chunk of St.Helens is in Wigan.
However, it could be said that a large chunk of Wigan is in St.Helens.
The truth of the matter is - 'only Wigan is in Wigan'!

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4580)   Report abuse
chris those names you mentioned bring back memories I was there from 67 till 73,2 other names electrical instructors mr ashton technical and mr ashcroft practical ,there was also a mr middlehurst not sure what subject he taught.

Posted by: dougie (3566)  Report abuse
I've been looking at this thread I got the equivalent in theory of a Shotfirer/Deputy at the age of 18 and was face trained by the age of 19, through going to the mining college at St-Helens on day release from the pit, the pit closed I was at in 1959 and Reeds opened worked the next 40 years at Reeds best thing I ever did,

in 1955 the mining college was next to the Town Hall we also used the Gamble institute for lessons before moving to a new place by Beacham's,
I remember Alic Murphy was working on it at the time

Posted by: rio caroni (5077)  Report abuse
dougie, did you work with Burt Storey?

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4580)   Report abuse
I went to the mining college next to the town hall for electrical practice taken by a mr,ashcroft 1967

Posted by: dougie (3566)  Report abuse
Yes rio--We knew each other very well but not seen him for some time now,hope he's keeping well

Posted by: tonker (19029)   Report abuse

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4580)   Report abuse
memories well done MERRY CHRISTMAS

Posted by: rio caroni (5077)  Report abuse
dougie, he has had a couple of rough spells but I was with him in the New Inn on Sunday afternoon and he is as fit as a fiddle at the moment

Posted by: GrahamK (444) Report abuse
Tonker did you start at Old Boston with Peter Hayes he was a fitter at Bold and was apprentice of the year in his first year.

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4580)   Report abuse
I worked with peter hayes at Bold another name from the past.

Posted by: tonker (19029)   Report abuse
No, Graham, I don't remember many fitters from Boston, as I was electrical. I was there in 1976, well, I think it was August, 1975, to July, 1976.
The fitters I remember were David Scott, Neil Williams, Ste Baldwin (1974 - 1975) then Johnny Baldwin (1975 - 1976).
And a lad from Warrington, called Graham (Charlie) Hughes!

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1298) Report abuse
peter hayes started same year as me aug 74

Posted by: GrahamK (444) Report abuse
I started in September 78 at St Helens Tech until July 81 with Mike Sherrington, Vinny Marsden, Andy Bamford, Hughie Sutton all from Bold. Ste Rourke and Mike ? who we called lurch both from Parkside. Joe Mears from Agecroft.

Posted by: doodle (59) Report abuse
I was in the same set at Old Boston with Graham Hughes,bit of an odd character we used to call him Prince Charles.Others i remember were dave ruddy,chris arkwright,derek hurst,alan vincent(wilf),his cousin chris,stey lowe,dave bennett,ian brett,bob donaghy,barry harcourt,johnny boyd the last 4 names were all apprentices at plank lane then we all transferred to Parkside in 1979,good times.

Posted by: GrahamK (444) Report abuse
Ste Lowe if he was a fitter is the only name I remember Doodle.

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4580)   Report abuse
I remember Ste Lowe from bold,there was a party at a club on bishops road st,helens Ste turned up in his ford capri came into the club said his car was stuck on the car park turned out he had parked on the bowling green oops.

Posted by: whups (2372)  Report abuse
i remember all those teachers . howsley could write for england & mr pownall could write with both hands . i mentioned mr dumican on the old boston thread . we used to go in the travelers but migrated to the guardians .me , parky , wilf hill , tony pilling & karl myers sharpened up our darts in those pubs . it used to be the old notre dame school i believe .happy days.

Posted by: massumbula (62) Report abuse
i remember parky ,wilf,tony and karl, i went to the college with them as well whats your name whupps, you may remember me jw.

Posted by: whups (2372)  Report abuse
yes john i remember you well . hav,nt seen you in a long time . i,m the dart player from downall green.r u still living in bamfurlong ?.

Posted by: whups (2372)  Report abuse
for anyone from golborne iv,e put a message on the golborne colliery blog about the disaster walk planned for march .

Posted by: tonker (19029)   Report abuse
Do you think Rawsthorne will turn up?

Posted by: whups (2372)  Report abuse
not sure as he lives in newton heath now.

Posted by: massumbula (62) Report abuse
ah yes, i thought so, its been many a year brian, i have lived in golborne since i got wed 33 year ago, where have the years gone, bumped into karl twenty year ago, not the same now he is a jeehova, also worked with wilf for a while, he has never changed,get up ashton now and then on a sunday afternoon but never see any old pals, keep the arm throwing pal.

Posted by: whups (2372)  Report abuse
not played for over 20yrs now john . we are in golborne on another walk for the pit on the 16th march . goin to the catholic club afterwards .i see tony pilling pretty regular in ashton .

Posted by: massumbula (62) Report abuse
will be doing the walk myself , will look out for you mate.

Posted by: whups (2372)  Report abuse
ok john.

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4580)   Report abuse
whups and john good luck with the walk

Posted by: whups (2372)  Report abuse
thanx joe.

Posted by: daves (5)  Report abuse
What a blast from the past to read the above posts. I started at Old Boston in 1974 as an apprentice fitter and went to Notre Dam collage for the duration of my apprenticeship. I certainly remember Mr Dooley and Jimmy Dumican, does anyone know if these guys are still with us and if so where they are now. It would be great to see these characters again.

david.stevens@vibanalysis.co.uk if you have any info...

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4580)   Report abuse
good days dave.

Posted by: tuddy (897) Report abuse
Somebody has posted a photo of Ken Pye on the album page of photo's of Wigan. Ken was a mining lecturer at North Road College. The photo shows Ken when he was the mayor of Wigan.

Posted by: tonker (19029)   Report abuse
We had the good (?) fortune of having Mr.Dooley for Mining Science.
As you'll be aware, he was the St.Helens equivalent of the sweary chef, only he didn't f****n' cook!

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4580)   Report abuse
tonker your right there,he must have been even firier when he was younger.

Posted by: tonker (19029)   Report abuse
graneyjoseph Replied: 27th Jan 2016 at 05:30

Ast' pissed i'bed?

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4580)   Report abuse
tonker I dont think so I will check, after a lifetime of getting up at 04:30 05:30 is a lie in..

Posted by: spud1 (1642) Report abuse
Peter Dooley was the undermanager at Parkside when I started there in 1961,he was has mad as an hatter,but he was ok,and he did'nt hold any grudges as far as I know.

Posted by: tuddy (897) Report abuse
There was an undermanager at Golborne Colliery with the same temperament as Peter Dooley. His name was Geoff Blackburn. He was a big bearded 17 stone bear of a man, with a booming voice and a temper to match. He always reminded me of that Sir Lancelott Sprat character that James Robertson Justice played in the old doctor films.

Posted by: tonker (19029)   Report abuse
Read this post that I did a couple of years back, re: Peter Dooley and his behavioural problems.
It's the one next to the last .....

Click Me ↠ ↞ ɘM ʞɔilƆ

Posted by: spud1 (1642) Report abuse
One saturday evening about 7pm,we were on the surface at Parkside,on call in case a pump broke down,and having a makeshift cricket match,fitters and leccies plus others,when Pey Dooley turned up,he only lived at the bottom of the road, he had come to get somethimg made,anyway he had a fit,smashed the wicket,a wooden box,sacked all of us and stormed off,the next time we saw him,he never mentioned it.

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4580)   Report abuse
aspergers comes to mind .not being derogatory of people with this.

Posted by: tonker (19029)   Report abuse
Mentalism comes to mind for me!

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4580)   Report abuse
tonker your not that bad.

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1298) Report abuse
I think the medical term is crackers

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4580)   Report abuse
couldnt put it better myself Colin.I think tonker needs a carer I suggest bunkermouth.

Posted by: tonker (19029)   Report abuse
graneyjoseph Replied: 30th Jan 2016 at 05:59


05:59? Di't o'ersleyp?

Posted by: tuddy (897) Report abuse
tonker, Did you study Latin as well as mining science?

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4580)   Report abuse
tonker no just got in from a girlfriend swapping party I got a DeWalt drill.

Posted by: tuddy (897) Report abuse
There's a notice in today's Wigan Evening Post announcing the death of an Alastair McMillan, 1933 - 2016, born in Dunfermline, and lived more than 40 years in Wigan. It looks like Mac has passed away.

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4580)   Report abuse
Sad news.

Posted by: chris southworth (545) Report abuse
Aye, sad news indeed. RIP Mac. He was a belting fella.

Posted by: tuddy (897) Report abuse
Mac's funeral took place yesterday, 21st, in St Helens.

Posted by: phred (322)   Report abuse
Peter Dooley was deputy manager at Parkside when I worked there from '60's,big influence on my career,great personality!

Posted by: spud1 (1642) Report abuse
I was at Parkside from 61 to late 66,and in the first couple of years we saw Peter Dooley most days,and he was someone,once met never forgotten,he had loads of tantrums,and was like a mad man at times,but he was ok.

 
 
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