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Started by: billy (26053) 

a british soldier flown home to hospital here in the UK, was asked to remove his uniform on the grounds that it could offend some ethnic minorities in the ward???
theres a guy in here whom you all know, is quick to label myself and no doubt others with the racist label(even called me a nazi)what i wonder, would his coments be on this situation???bearing in mind this took place in an english hospital.i await your views on this with great anticipation.

Started: 3rd Oct 2006 at 09:34

Posted by: neverstill (inactive)

i would of told them Eff off!!! if they dont like the uniform of an english soldier, go home where they probably help kill them off

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Posted by: getwom (inactive)

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Posted by: disco_diva (inactive)

Getwom. i really do understand your point. But people in this country whom are proud of it and pay taxes or have done so in the past are just so fed up with the way our beautiful isle is just basically disintergrating.

Replied: 3rd Oct 2006 at 11:52

Posted by: ©art© (6154)

A uniform would be pretty uncomfortable in bed, don't you think?
I've been in & out of wards all over Wigan, Lancashire & Greater Manchester,& never seen any forces personnel in uniform on a ward.
I was in uniform & so were the nursing staff, nobody objected to us.

Pick another subject (if you can) Willy

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Posted by: getwom (inactive)

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Posted by: keily (306) 

Getwom, to quote, Discuss and ask about anything related to Wigan... Page 2, Join the real men !!!! Correct me if I’m wrong, but is there any relevance to Wigan? In my opinion people should be entitled to their views without being branded, I was a punk from the 70s, so I know full well about having labels attached to me just because people didn’t agree with what I stood for, I disagree with a lot of the things that are happening in the UK & the world, & we can’t escape the fact that there are problems with the Muslims & the western world. but surely just to have an opinion doesn’t make a person a racist or a Nazi, I agree with Billy on some things but I’m in no way a Nazi or racist, going back to the days of punk, the only pub I could get in in Wigan was the John Bull, nowhere else would serve me just because of what I stood for, people would cross the street from me or shout obscenities, I was ostracized by the people of Wigan so I moved to Bolton where it was a lot more relaxed, but I didn’t label the people of Wigan because they wouldn’t walk on the same side of the street or share a seat with me on a bus etc, I know I’m rambling but my point is people should not be labeled just because their opinions are different, I don’t think Billy is a Nazi, he has an opinion & he should be able to voice it without labels being attached to him, I hope I haven’t offended anyone in my post as that is not my intention, I think difference of opinion is healthy because it can result in compromise, if we lived in a dictatorship we could all have the same opinions, Hmmm I know which I prefer. Have a nice day everybody.

Replied: 3rd Oct 2006 at 15:10

Posted by: disco_diva (inactive)

Getwom states
" The suggestion that the country has become worse needs close examination - it depends what you look at. The implication that it has become worse because of immigrants needs even closer examination."

Try telling that to women being denied cancer drugs such has herceptin due to the fact that there is 'no money in the pot' due to the ever spiralling cost of treating aids cases from other continents and TB is also on the increase. I have read recently that doctors and nurses are so exasparated to this fact that they are seeking employment in other countries.

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Posted by: getwom (inactive)

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Posted by: keily (306) 

In all fairness to getwoms last post, yes dare I say it (in the olden days)lol, there wasn’t the problems that are rife in today’s society, but I think the blame must lie with the break up of communities, family’s all lived in close proximity & everyone knew each other so it was basically policed by itself, the fact that everyone lived amongst relatives and friends bred a respect that today’s society doesn’t have, I think the aftermath of the war & slum clearance must shoulder the blame for the community breakup. Just my observation based on my granny, R.I.P.

Replied: 3rd Oct 2006 at 15:23

Posted by: keily (306) 

Sorry getwom, i stand corrected

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Posted by: keily (306) 

In fact i didn`t at any point say you did, i was talking about people in general

Replied: 3rd Oct 2006 at 15:30

Posted by: disco_diva (inactive)

Keily, your reply concerning the breakdown of communities, etc, is so correct.
Family breakdown, lack of respect and moral guidelines not being advocated are a contributing factor also to the state of our country.

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Posted by: getwom (inactive)

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Posted by: billy (26053) 

information and the source of same.....getwom,where do we all get our info from!!!we are the joe small potatoes of this world, and we rely on the mass media for all of our info. everything i have expressed in here has come from the said media. regarding the brit squadie, he made front page news in the mail for two days running??we read and listen to the news media, and then we form our own opinions on the subject matter.you have denied much of what i have posted???can i ask what media you use, to be in a position to argue your case?as for the cynic talking about uniforms in hospitals, did you not walk the wards in your street pants/jeans whilst you were in the recovery stage.by the way, good post keily.again you simply comment on your views of any given news item, what the hells wrong withat in a free democratic society??(free at the time of posting)

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Posted by: getwom (inactive)

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Posted by: billy (26053) 

getwom....blair has made it a criminal offence to be racist, and to attack the religious leanings of others....why wasnt the muslim whacko jaile for proposing the death of the pope whilst demonstrating in front of peterborough cathedral,frightening the christian worshipers???what would have happend if christians had called for the death penalty of the head of their religion?(dosent seem to be a singular head, everyone incharge unfortunately)

Replied: 3rd Oct 2006 at 16:14

Posted by: billy (26053) 

your not a reader of newspapers then getwom??at least not western newspapers, how else could you not have been aware of the soldier news item??

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Posted by: getwom (inactive)

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Posted by: billy (26053) 

al jazeera isnt a very accurate source of news unles yo happen to have come from middle eastern DNA.they swear by it.so if you line up all the news printed around the world, it would work out pretty evenly ballanced on b******t, however, i would much favour our interpretation of the news than the one refered to.
hey mollie, my tea wasnt up to standards today in morrisons. (you aint been shopping me to the cafe staff have ya

Replied: 3rd Oct 2006 at 16:23

Posted by: disco_diva (inactive)

Erm, Getwom, i just had to laugh when i read your info link regarding the 'so called imaginary increase of TB cases'.
'SocialistWorker.co.uk' now would you believe it!
Now they would say that wouldn't they.
Works both ways doesn't it.

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Posted by: tonker (27835) 

'Discuss and ask about anything related to Wigan', my a**e! What about posts related to 'the countryside', 'holidays', 'work', 'television', etc. etc. etc.. Theres nothing wrong with speaking your mind. If you don't agree, say so, if you do, join in. That's what a forum is about.

Replied: 3rd Oct 2006 at 17:33

Posted by: dave© (3507)

Maybe the writer is referring to this?

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Posted by: billy (26053) 

thanks dave for the corroberation of my post content.i aint no pute whiz kid, so my efforts on the keys is limited. now you have furnished the evidence of the post i made,maybe getwom will dismiss this as western propaganda to wind up the masses. (just cant win with these intelects)

Replied: 4th Oct 2006 at 09:39

Posted by: billy (26053) 

further to the gov leanings to all things anti english....a south african squadie serving in the british army(two tours of duty in iraq)has been told he cant have a british passport when he leaves the army????i would advise the same lad to wear a towel around his head, refuse to learn the english language, protest thro the streets against western coruption and evil influences on mankind, and then, only then, would he have a chance of a brit passport. (easy my squadie friend, if ya know the tricks)

Replied: 4th Oct 2006 at 09:44

Posted by: billy (26053) 

is it true???i just heard morrisons are offering two pots of tea for the price of one??

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Posted by: getwom (inactive)

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Posted by: billy (26053) 

distortion of truth by the daily mail???
tell me get wom,which daily blatt must i read to get the truth???

Replied: 4th Oct 2006 at 10:50

Posted by: disco_diva (inactive)

I have picked out a few paragraphs from the article posted by 'dave'

"UK troops in NHS hospitals should be treated in separate wings even if it requires public wards to be shut down, the shadow defence secretary has said."

WHY?

"A relative of a paratrooper wounded in Afghanistan had reportedly said the soldier had been threatened by a Muslim visitor on an NHS ward in Birmingham."


Dr Fox said: "It is a betrayal of our troops having them treated in mixed and open wards."

"We owe it to those who have risked their lives on our behalf to treat them with dignity"
Shadow defence secretary Liam Fox

"For those who have been traumatised in combat, healing of the mind is as important as healing of the body.

The man who allegedly accosted him was said to have told the soldier: "You have been killing my Muslim brothers in Afghanistan."

Yes, no proof of having to remove his uniform but nonetheless a very distressing and worrying story.

Getwom, you have not mentioned some of the other quotes in the article. You say that Liam Fox wants seperate wards out of respect for soldiers because of trauma that they have been through and i agree, but he is also making a valid point of keeping 'our lads' away from abuse from 'certain members' of the public.

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Posted by: getwom (inactive)

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Posted by: billy (26053) 

you havent answered my question you wily old fox you....what paper do you sugest i should read to get a true report on world news???youve trashed the paper i read and quite a few others in here, so come on fridays man, what paper???daily worker perhaps
red star
socialist worker ect ect ect
which one getwom(lancs slang meaning "go home"you are a mystery man getwom, a real life scarlet pimpernel.

Replied: 4th Oct 2006 at 15:28

Posted by: billy (26053) 

what paper??????

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Posted by: getwom (inactive)

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Posted by: billy (26053) 

the times and the guardian ...well well well, the same guardian that praised adolf hitler for getting germany back to work???
the same guardian that saw nothing but great promises for the uk if we were to follow adolf and his dynamic approach to national welfare.why did i ask...i should have known. carry on reading getwom, but why not try the beano, at least you will get a laugh outa that "BLATT"

Replied: 4th Oct 2006 at 15:57

Posted by: billy (26053) 

the guardian????
why the TIMES???aint they a contradiction???the two tegether are like "CUSTARD AND KIPPERS"

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Posted by: empress (9667) 

To get back to the original question.....I would have had a union jack tattooed on my ass and moonied the the whining gits.Our forces are the best...........so I for one am LOUD AND PROUD to be British.
If that offends anyone, tough luck.I got my rights to speak too.

Replied: 4th Oct 2006 at 19:21

Posted by: billy (26053) 

all the way empress...i"m with you.the MOD has just woken up to the fact that closing down military hospitals was a big mistake. it appears squadies have been abused for quite some time now by walk in rag heads accusing them of killing there afghan muslim brothers.unlike the USA (who look after their guys)place an armed guard at entrances.

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Posted by: getwom (inactive)

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Posted by: billy (26053) 

in a humourous tone getwom.....i would sugest you take a good dose of andrews liver salts yourself.
there are none so blind, as those who wouldnt see. amen.

Replied: 5th Oct 2006 at 16:00

Posted by: billy (26053) 

by the way gethome, it wasnt me who started the name calling, but as you dont watch TV or read a western paper, you would have missed your friends calling the likes of me infidel/dog dirt/a nothing/ubeliever/
i do have beleifs, but different to their dark age dinosaurus philosophies.so i ask you, what gives them the right to dictate to all of us in our own country, without being labelled by the likes of yourself whom i am beginning to suspect who and what you are???your ethnic origins???if indeed you are a newcomer to our shores, then lets talk things over without the islamic way of putting labels on everyone.we are a free country at time of posting this,and would break bread with you anyday if i could save you from the spiraling drop you are in. i bet under all this pretence you are a nice guy. just blind and misguided.

Replied: 5th Oct 2006 at 16:11

Posted by: billy (26053) 

today a muslim cop refused to take up guard duty outside the israeli embassy.
we have an admiral of the fleet who is muslim, just hope he aint going to refuse his national duty when the time comes around.if only they would integrate like hindus/sikhs/orientals/ west indian ect ect ect,why do they insist on non integration???what do you think is the reason getwom???

Replied: 5th Oct 2006 at 17:06

Posted by: flockhound (160)

Australia is to introduce a test for immigration on The English Language and Australian customs, heritage and values. Why you ask, cause we dont want to end up like France and the U.K.

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Posted by: getwom (inactive)

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Posted by: billy (26053) 

if the UK had the guts to have an australian imigrant policy, things would be a lot better here than the present policy of bending over to islam.no other national in the UK gets as much air time as the muslim do. its complaint after complaint, they do not seem to be satified with anything that is done for them.the tradgedy of all this, is the native populace of these isles (small majority)seem to believe every utterance from them.at the same time they agree with the open door policies for the mass imigration to this very very generous isle. trouble is, its all taken for granted, and more is demanded from the poor working class of these same isles.empress was quite right in her observations of the difficulty of getting any treatment on time in the health service, let alone getting the service he/she has been paying into all their working lives.
theres a pot boiling.

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Posted by: getwom (inactive)

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Posted by: billy (26053) 

were the heck are you coming from GW???you arent living in this country thats for sure with your obscure and so self deluding ideas....no open door policies????since when for ******sake???i"m beginning to realise that any further posts to you on migration subjects are totally waste of space and intelectual matter. you have called me illiterate in a previous post??i shall not stoop to such a base level as yourself, considering it to be the lowest form of advocacy.have a helluva nice day pilgrim.
no open door plicy???
no open door policy???

Replied: 6th Oct 2006 at 15:32

Posted by: billy (26053) 

are you serious????

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Posted by: disco_diva (inactive)

Billy
Dont let him wind you up

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Posted by: getwom (inactive)

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Posted by: disco_diva (inactive)

Getwom
Apparently, if this is true,there is a vacancy in the Human Rights Office (Cherie's pad) in London.
Job Description - Stand at reception-wear a placard saying 'welcome all from overseas',send them to loony house, sorry 'Lunar House' and all you have to tell them to say is "I'm gay, persecution and benefits".Pays £100,00 plus per annum.
It would suit you perfectly.

Replied: 6th Oct 2006 at 15:49

Posted by: disco_diva (inactive)

Getwom, are you an MP?

You claim to know alot.

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Posted by: getwom (inactive)

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Posted by: disco_diva (inactive)

Getwom,there is no need to get personal.

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Posted by: keily (306) 

As long as they are only race orientated and not racist then they are well within the guidelines.

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Posted by: disco_diva (inactive)

Getwom
Ha! You edited disco_ dive to disco_ diva.
That really upset me!
Naughty Fishy123 once said that about me in another thread. He called me disco_dive.
Anyway, me names Kerrie!

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Posted by: disco_diva (inactive)

Getwom
Go to a post Billy written yesterday, 5th October, 17.06pm
I'm sorry but Billy does not sound racist to me. He states that why can't Muslims integrate like other religions do like hindus, sikhs, etc
He has a point!
He is just a very patriotic guy.

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Posted by: getwom (inactive)

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Posted by: disco_diva (inactive)

Keyboards are based on the QWERTY system. 'A is quite a way from 'E.Me thinks i was just getting on your nerves. I get on my own nerves sometimes.
Apologies accepted.

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Posted by: getwom (inactive)

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Posted by: disco_diva (inactive)

Me head's spinning!!!!!!
I'm going mad on this thread.

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Posted by: disco_diva (inactive)

4cm, i got it to 5cm.

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Posted by: keily (306) 

From the top right corner of my A key to the bottom left corner of my E key is only just over 2.5cm, but disco if i ever call you dive it will more than likely be because i went to Pem middle where i spent a lot of time in porters wood instead of school then to Whitley where i spent most time in town center instead of school so spelling isn`t my forte.

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Posted by: tonker (27835) 

Back to Racism, Ladies and Gentlemen, er., sorry to interupt, Laaaaaike.
Regarding the latest news about Jack Straw, Blackburn M.P., and his view that Muslim women should take off their veil when they attend his surgery and speak to him, has caused me to think about this subject - I went into a petrol station, in Adlington, this summer on my motorcycle and I was refused service because I wouldn't take my helmet off. The girl behind the counter said "it's our policy".
Now, there was only me on the forecourt at the time, but, if a Muslim woman had pulled in alongside me, and wearing a veil, would the girl have served her, regardless? If she did, would it have hit the headlines under the title 'Racist Incident at Adlington Petrol Station'? And, what are the chances of a couple of hundred Christians turning out to boycot the petrol station, in support of 'our religion'? Not much, I should imagine.

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Posted by: billy (26053) 

nice one tonks me lad.
as for westerners in muslim lands, they most certainly do have to conform to muslim law and tradition.
GW mentions the home office dictats...the whole problem lies with the home office does it not???they have even employed illegal immigrants they dont know what b****y day it is.
in the news today getwom(you might be interested) "REID TO CLSE THE OPEN DOOR POLICY OF THE UK."
PS nice post diva

Replied: 7th Oct 2006 at 11:06

Posted by: billy (26053) 

further to the question of integration and abiding by the nations laws....two muslim taxi drivers (one after the other)refused to take a blind lady because of her guide dog??not much compassion there getwom wouldnt you say.(wonder if it was racist??)

Replied: 7th Oct 2006 at 11:10

Posted by: twozero (203)

The most simple thing to do is 'why don't you emmigrate to the land of the free' ie. Iraq they have a first class website and a wonderful way of dealing with free speech, and they guarantee that each and every one of you will NOT bother anyone again. Get a life, our present way of life has been forced onto us, now go over there and force it onto them, now onto MORE important matters, When is the statue being put back in Mesnes park

Replied: 7th Oct 2006 at 15:32

Posted by: dark horse (295) 

Well heres my contribution. If you walk into a court building you will have any sharp objects removed. However if your religious dress code states that you must wear a ceremonial (but very real)sword, you will not be asked to remove it! (I have seen this done).

On a slightly diverse matter, those who do not believe there has been a huge surge in immigrants either does not leave the house or looks out of their bottom. Not only is there a very noticeable increase in various foreign nationals, but they are visibly well off too.

They also in general are not very gracious to their hosts. They push you out of the way in queues, tread on you (and your children) without a word (an apology doesnt have to be in english as it is intelligible in any tongue)and they obviously talk about the locals in their own language,quite obviously not favourably.

I was in a queue in a shop in town today and there was what I think a polish couple in front of me. Like any young couple they were all over each other, but it got out of hand when she started to lick his neck and chest and he was attempting to put his hand down her jeans. People shuffled uncomfortably as this couple continued, talking in their own language.

No one seemed to want to say owt even tho there were young kids nearby, so I thought, sod it I will. I coughed loudly and pointed to the little uns, made a kiss and wagged my finger and shook my head. They understood perfectly well and understand the local sign language that is for sure, plus I got a load of what I assume were foreign swear words. This does not endear them to us does it? After all, they have chosen to live in OUR community.

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