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Self employed
Started by: nanajacqui (2928)  Report abuse
Just have to wait for my letter from HMRC to claim my 80% but it'll only be paid in June & can expect up to £2,500 per month as long as your Tax Returns have been sent in for 3 years,mine have been a lot longer

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (4777) Report abuse
What about yoo Whupsy, you are Keen on when it comes to tax matters, I hope yoo are up to date with your tax affairs

Posted by: tomplum (6188)  Report abuse
a lot of S/E taxi drivers won't get it because, they are paying 80% of the profit and taxi drivers are famous or is it infamous for working 24/7 and their out goings are more than their takings so their profit ( on their accounts) are very low,

you can't cod our Boris,

PS I'm not suggestion TTS does it But, fireplace told me of loads that do,

Posted by: tonker (21366)   Report abuse
Especially the muslim taxi drivers, who give nearly all their profit to personal registered charities called 'family trust' in order to keep their wage below the benefits threshold.

THEY are coddin' our Boris, always have been, always will do!

Posted by: chatty (7540)  Report abuse
Anyone doing that has "codded" themselves on this occasion then, they deserve all they wont get.

Posted by: firefox (1493) Report abuse
Can you let me know the lottery numbers for tomorrow, Chatty?

Posted by: chatty (7540)  Report abuse
Meaning what?

Posted by: firefox (1493) Report abuse
Never mind.

Posted by: chatty (7540)  Report abuse
Thought not.

Posted by: firefox (1493) Report abuse
Thought not what?

Posted by: chatty (7540)  Report abuse
Never mind.

Posted by: firefox (1493) Report abuse
Thought not;.

Posted by: chatty (7540)  Report abuse
Thought not what?

Posted by: tonker (21366)   Report abuse
I don't think!

Posted by: chatty (7540)  Report abuse
What do you not think?

Posted by: chatty (7540)  Report abuse
What I didn't realise, according to some "expert" on the radio today, and I listen again to double check what he said.
He reckons the grant for the self
employed can be claimed without any sort of means testing, meaning they can still carry on earning as normal (if possible) and are still able to claim that money on top!
Struggling to digest that, but that's what he reckons


Posted by: firefox (1493) Report abuse
We can only wait and seee, none of us can predict the future.

I mean, some of us though labour would win and we would stay in the EU.

Posted by: chatty (7540)  Report abuse
Nothing to do with predicting the future, if the Chancellor has put measures in place to help the self employed there's no reason not to believe him is there, unless you know something?

Posted by: tomplum (6188)  Report abuse
Its a tricky one and thats why its took so long to formulate, the S/E can still work if they can do so and keep away from others, A gardener, a window cleaner for instance, So if they carry on working, they do not get the allowance, So many will stop working to claim but still do 'cash jobs'

Posted by: chatty (7540)  Report abuse
That's my point tp.
The bloke on the radio says the self employed can get the allowance whether or not the stop working.

Posted by: nanajacqui (2928)  Report abuse
Yes it's correct & not means tested you get 80% I watched Martin Lewis the money expert last night

Posted by: whups (4566)   Report abuse
you dont pay any 1stroke.but people are being forced onto universal credit & because of the wait they are then asked to take a loan out which they then have to pay interest on it ? . wonga or what .

Posted by: firefox (1493) Report abuse

Posted by: tomplum (6188)  Report abuse
chatty, the ' expert' on Jeremy Vines program ( radio 2) said, they don't get it if they can carry on working, Unless I misunderstood, which is quite possible,

Posted by: chatty (7540)  Report abuse
I've just listened to it again tp (55 minutes in on the Jeremy Vine show on listen again) and he definitely said the self employed can work and still claim it

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (4777) Report abuse
Whupsy

I have said it before, and I will say it again, yoo were wasted going down that pit ....

Yoo should have been a tax man

Posted by: tomplum (6188)  Report abuse
chatty, I'll hold my hand up. I'm wrong again,

Posted by: chatty (7540)  Report abuse
No, I didn't believe what I was hearing at the time, that's why I listened again.
Just hope he's correct.

Posted by: tomplum (6188)  Report abuse
just watched channel 4 news at 7 and the news caster was trying to push the minister for the self employed to say a yes or no to this question,
" should a self employed worker now stay at home to protect us all from the virus"

he never got a, yes or a No, I think there will be a lot of disappointed self employed people,

Posted by: 0 years (3792) Report abuse
One of the disappointed is my son, paid tax for years as employed then went self employed 12 months ago. He will pay tax on his earnings since then but will get sod all help now.

Stinks.

Posted by: tomplum (6188)  Report abuse
0 years, I was self employed for 30 years and i understand the situation all too well , the hours we work that are not seen are unbelievable, to do a hours work in a customers house, I need to go have a look, then spend time sourcing the materials, then give a quote, if I dont get the job, thats time lost, if i do, I go and do the hour i've priced for and the customer says, or thinks, £100 quid for an hour,
they don't see the ' behind the curtains' time and the travel in traffic to get there twice and the time pricing
then the call back when, it goes wrong,
I have a saying, " it took me 10 years to be able to do this work in an hour, you owe me for the years, not the minutes",

Posted by: broady (15747)   Report abuse
I worked with self employed men for years. Back in the mid 90’s we paid them around £250 a shift. What they did was show them paying themselves minimum wage. Obviously that type of money would attract 40% tax but they declared their income less the minimum wage they paid themselves and that left the company formed making a large profit on which they paid Corporation Tax which at the time was 20%. A big saving. They also “ had a good dip at the expenses”:

Posted by: whups (4566)   Report abuse
your right 1stroke & i,d be all over you .

Posted by: laughing gravy (5906) Report abuse
whups your mate fartblood never declared everything he earned,but thats ok isn't it?

Posted by: whups (4566)   Report abuse
yes he did laughing boy & he paid his full dues unlike you & 1stroke .

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (4777) Report abuse
Whupsy

I literally "Cawnt Speyk"

Posted by: tonker (21366)   Report abuse
Don't bark up the wrong tree!

Whilst people are blaming each other, in their own social circles, for tax fraud, it's rife elsewhere. Look through the BIG window!

I see people living in large houses, owned by themselves yet being paid housing benefit.
I see people with £60,000 motor cars parked on the drive, who claim council tax benefit.
I saw a large house, in Bolton, which had £thousands spent on it, by Bolton council, in order to house a foreign elderly relative of the owners who had never been to the UK before. The elderly relative (immigrant) had a full care package laid on, free of charge, whilst I was paying £602 a week for my own mother to have the same package. The difference was - my mother worked in the UK from 14 years old to 64 years old. The immigrant had been in the UK for a few weeks. The people, known to me, own several commercial properties in Bolton and elsewhere, yet they pay for nothing.
This needs stopping!
If I know about it, the people with the power to stop it also know about it. Why is it allowed to go on?

People, look through the BIG window!

Posted by: chatty (7540)  Report abuse
The individual case you mention did you "flag it up" with anyone, knowing the details and obviously it being close to home for you?

Posted by: momac (10743)  Report abuse
Tonks,it's because the people in charge (Councils ) are frightened of
making waves..in other words they're cowards...it's disgusting.

Posted by: firefox (1493) Report abuse
That's very true, Momac.

Posted by: tonker (21366)   Report abuse
Chatty, don't be thinking this is an 'isolated' case. It's not. It's happening all over, by the same crowd.

Momac, the local authorities, 'councils', only do what they're told to do. They have a system, a legally binding 'book of rules', to follow. It needs higher levels to act on this. It's the higher levels which are allowing it to go on.

Posted by: momac (10743)  Report abuse
Yes Tonks,why haven't they changed the rules..it'll be a case of "Im alright
Jack"..so why should we!!.The people of Bolton should go on a protest
March..but I bet they'd stop that happening..you can't win can you..on
another note,how on earth do these care homes come up with those figures,
I had to give my job up to look after my Mam,I got £70 a week in 1997..
-and its ruddy hard work especially when they can't walk..as soon as she
had to go into a home ( The Doctor said I was worn out ) the cost was £306
per week,and she like Tonks Mum worked all her life.

Posted by: firefox (1493) Report abuse
I concur, Tonker

Posted by: tonker (21366)   Report abuse
Momac, the fee for my mum in a local nursing home (which she refused to go into, point blank!) was £1,178 per week.
They said it was so high because she couldn't do anything for herself and needed 100% assistance.
Which was true, as she couldn't move. She couldn't move, couldn't feed herself, couldn't drink, couldn't make contact as she couldn't operate a call alarm, double incontinent, bed ridden 24/7.
But, she didn't qualify for CHC, as she was not 'at risk' due to her being immobile.
The NHS washed their hands of my mum. We couldn't gab the district nurses across the road for any NHS medical input. It ended up the (unqualified) carers dressing her ulcerated feet, daily, and you could see the bones in her toes!

I've had a case going on about it for two years now, but they're dragging their heels fine style with it.
Hospital was a shithole. She ended up with badly damaged arms, from both carers and hospital. She was dropped off a crane/hoist onto the floor, cutting her head. A six-inch strip of skin ripped off her arm by a carer.
One carer booking another in for an hour at a time, when they weren't actually there. Paid for 2 carers an hour when only one turned up for 5 minutes. It's all on record!

And now we've got it all again with the mother in law. And it's happening as we speak. One carer, paid for half an hour, 12 till 12.30 to make lunch. She's turned up today at 11.15 and stayed for 5 minutes. Big Smile Mrs.Carer, you're on camera!

Posted by: firefox (1493) Report abuse

Posted by: momac (10743)  Report abuse
Tonks,that is just disgusting..I was an Auxiliary at Whelley Hospital for ten
years ( only left under docs orders due to back problems) no matter what
was said about Whelley,our patients were looked after 100 %.not only that
we loved them as if they our own..and they loved us back..I cried when I
knew that I'd have to leave..and carried on driving there for twelve months
after..how anyone can treat an old person like that I will never know..they'd gone.through hard times for Gods sake..I feel for you and your Mum,I hope you get some justice for her I really do.

And as for the so called carers..I hope you report them all.

Posted by: tonker (21366)   Report abuse
Mrs.Anders worked there!

Posted by: momac (10743)  Report abuse
I don't know a Mrs Anders,but I know a Mrs Andrews..that was me.
I must add I was a Nursing Auxiliary which meant I did everything that the
other nurses did..except give injections.

Posted by: jarvo (29633)  Report abuse
The majority of carers today are totally unqualified to do the job that they are supposed to do. And some of them abuse it, as well as abusing the patients - but not all of them, and there some decent people out there.

'Caring' is a massive grey area.

Time rattles on. If ever (God forbid) I got into a situation that I may need caring for, I have the loaded revolver ready...

Happiness is a warm gun.



Posted by: momac (10743)  Report abuse
Cameras can sort a lot of them out.in patients homes,care homes and Hospitals.

Posted by: TerryW (4136) Report abuse
Has anyone had any dealings with Alexander Court nursing home up Pemberton. We have heard some not very good reviews about the care received and cleanliness of the place, we are pretty anxious at this time for a family member that may or may not be going there. Thanks

Posted by: tonker (21366)   Report abuse
Mrs.Anders was a matron or a sister, but not a nun. She was t'main un in that hospital. And a magistrate too!

Posted by: nanajacqui (2928)  Report abuse
Yes Terry I heard bad reports when we were looking for a place for my Dad in 2000,Mahogany Care Home got the best reviews but was full

Posted by: momac (10743)  Report abuse
When I was there..it was Sister Smith,Sister Naylor,Sister Adejedi,Sister
Winnard,and a welsh one but forgotten her name..1975-1985.

Posted by: TerryW (4136) Report abuse
Thanks NanaJ. Not sounding great really, our family member may be discharged from Preston for rehabilitation there, I need to look into this place further.

Posted by: basil brush (13865) Report abuse
TTT use the one on norley, then you'll be close to these

Posted by: TerryW (306)100+ Report abuse

I recall the benefit cheats living on Calder Place. Nice.

Replied: 25th Apr 2019 at 12:28


osted by: TerryW (403)100+ Report abuse

The knuckle draggers and their feral families from there will flock to him and make him feel at home.

Posted by: laughing gravy (5906) Report abuse
terry my mum was in alexander court for a few months in 2017 it was always clean when i visited and the staff came in regular with cups of tea ect,my mum never complained to me which she would have done if she wer'nt happy.

Posted by: TerryW (4136) Report abuse
Thanks LG, sounds a bit more reassuring that but like I said we'll need to look into it further. Much appreciated though.

Posted by: nanajacqui (2928)  Report abuse
Terry one to avoid Beeches Care Home Coppull,my Dad went in on the Saturday & I went to cut his hair on the Thursday & he absolutely stunk,I asked when they last bathed him & they said they hadn't not once,he passed away on the Saturday,so just one week he stayed

Posted by: TerryW (4136) Report abuse
That's awful NanaJ, poor man.

Posted by: nanajacqui (2928)  Report abuse
Another to avoid Deanwood Manor Shevington my brother in law had Parkinsons & he escaped through a door which wasn't locked,they found him wet through in a farmers field the following day,we moved him to one in Ashton

Posted by: firefox (1493) Report abuse

Posted by: momac (10743)  Report abuse
Poor thing..I bet he was freezing.

Posted by: nanajacqui (2928)  Report abuse
He was momac,the Police knocked us up at 05.30 on Sunday morning,frightened the life out of us,to ask us was he with us he's gone missing

Posted by: FAT MICK (1094) Report abuse
My mother died in Deanwood Manor on Boxing day morning , thank god, but back then it was located in Kitt Green not in Shevington.

Nothing wrong with most these care homes, whats wrong is the uncaring staff who work there for there bingo and cig money

Posted by: tonker (21366)   Report abuse
Quite often, the boss is never there. When I say "the boss", I mean the owner / director. They will be somewhere else, usually miles away, engaged in other matters and other business. The only time they see the place / places are when they make a pre-arranged visit but, by then, everything is ship-shaped.

Rather like the hospitals!

Posted by: basil brush (13865) Report abuse
Lads no loads of people who work at the one on Norley, I can have a word, let them no all about you, TTT

Posted by: Aziraphale (200) Report abuse
So they can argue, sorry, have a DISCUSSION on the internet with him. or find out where he lives and beat him?
Or is it so they can ask every male who visits a relative if they post on WW and have the username, TerryW?

Posted by: basil brush (13865) Report abuse
What goes on in your head

Just trying to help

Posted by: firefox (1493) Report abuse
Help?

Posted by: nanajacqui (2928)  Report abuse
Avoid the Norley Hall Care Home Terry,in the 70's the Matron named Joan was a battle axe of a woman & was a Scout leader also.I was a Pharmacy Technician for 24 years & had dealings with all the Care Homes in Wigan & supplied all their pre packed medicines.Woodlands Hall in Whelley was a good one

Posted by: firefox (1493) Report abuse
The norley hall one is opposite the shops. The residents can watch the action there when there's nothingh on telly.

Posted by: nanajacqui (2928)  Report abuse
Plenty to watch people calling in for the Sun

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Posted by: TerryW (4136) Report abuse
Aziraphale. I can oblige anyone who wishes to know all about me. But thank you.

Posted by: firefox (1493) Report abuse
I am TerryW and I claim my £50.

Posted by: TerryW (4136) Report abuse
NanaJ. Thanks for that, Norley is out of the question.

Posted by: basil brush (13865) Report abuse
Very highly recommended, i can have a word if you want.



Posted by: TerryW (3654)2,500+ Report abuse

Aziraphale. I can oblige anyone who wishes to know all about me. But thank you.

REALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: TerryW (4136) Report abuse
Posted by: firefox (812)500+ Report abuse

I am TerryW and I claim my £50.

Well who am I today then It's so confusing at times on here.

But today I will be mostly...

The Storyteller, and my stories must be told. I have many stories, tales for both the young and old.

I have many voices to describe many places. Many names have I, and many faces…

In Russia I am Ivan, in Sweden I am Jan. In Germany I’m Johan, in America, I’m John. But In Wigan I am Mac, Joey onions,Tom, Joseph, Townofmemories and more.

From my many travels, I have gathered these tales, to teach you good sense, when all else fails…

Sometimes there are tears, sometimes there is laughter.

Posted by: basil brush (13865) Report abuse
But definitely a 100% nasty person who got sussed and now tries to be a decent poster.

Posted by: firefox (1493) Report abuse
Basil brush, who is TerryW? I am lost now.
LG said he knows who he is, who is he?

Posted by: basil brush (13865) Report abuse
Don't no, he came on here as a"newbie" and laid into LG straight away coming out with really nasty comments, i think he is someone who got skimmed off before as he types the same, his attitude is the same, can't say to much otherwise he'll go skrykin to admin again.

LG sussed him straight away

Posted by: firefox (1493) Report abuse
Sussed him out as what/who?

Posted by: momac (10743)  Report abuse
Please ignore Basil..he's just after more arguments.

Posted by: basil brush (13865) Report abuse
Ask LG, i have said who i think it is.

Posted by: nanajacqui (2928)  Report abuse
momac fancy having to live with him full time

Posted by: momac (10743)  Report abuse
Basil,just look back at all your comments..I rest my case.

Posted by: basil brush (13865) Report abuse
I tried to help someone then you lot started having a pop.....AGAIN.

Posted by: momac (10743)  Report abuse
Nobody is having a pop Basil..but if you think they are just use the ignore
button,problem solved then it doesn't turn these good threads into a war
zone again.

Posted by: Aziraphale (200) Report abuse
It seems he loves to argue. See the where's leccy thread for proof.

Posted by: basil brush (13865) Report abuse
As a long term member, and major contributor to this site, despite a coward saying i was trying to get the site shut down, i should not have to click on ignore because "some people" keep attacking me every time i post......OKAY!!!.

Posted by: Reditus (289) Report abuse
What does EH!!! mean?

Posted by: nanajacqui (2928)  Report abuse
EH just common norley talk

Posted by: basil brush (13865) Report abuse
Posted by: nanajacqui (1091) View nanajacqui's page1,000+ Report abuse

Well that's it for me I'm out as well,take care & look after yourselves

If only.......EH

Posted by: nanajacqui (2928)  Report abuse
Peace perfect peace

Posted by: basil brush (13865) Report abuse
yes it would have been, pity you backtracked.

Posted by: TerryW (4136) Report abuse
It Must Be Him

A song heard echoing around Norley during the small hours.

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