NHS

Deteriorating!

Change the record...Play some S and G...

I dont think we need a newspaper article to tell us its deteriorating.

i wonder what the cause of this deterioration is ? .

Bound to be Jeremy corbyns fault

Certainly not mine as I did a runner (if you didn't know) after paying 10's of thousands in taxes etc. and don't claim a single penny of it. Neither can it be JC's because he has never been in a position with responsibility to spend anything. Maybe next time.

Who,s fault is it then

It's them men's !

Needs totally reforming. I have a quick solution. Pump all the overseas aid into the NHS. Easy peasy. Tighten up on visitors ( me included but I pay insurance) using the system and not paying. Centralise buying procedures. Must be cheaper to negotiate for a million pairs of gloves that ten different authorities negotiate for 100,000. Get rid of a whole tier of senior (non productive) management.

some good ideas broady,what of GP,S prescribing over the counter remedies ie painkillers ,a chap i know says his wife gets free toothpaste.how much waste just goes on in your local surgery.
perhaps a more central role in management may save sum cash as well.instead of every local nhs authority having its own tier of senior managemeent.the other possible misuse of funds is theft by nhs staff.
a very long time ago a senior sister told me,nearly every nurse must have enough bandages etc at home to look after a battalion of soldiers.
i have in the last three years been giving eleven medicines to control my blood pressure ,most of which i discarded after serious side effects.
however our country cannot do without a system of free health care ,so three cheers to the nhs.

this is after cameron stating that there would be no top down reorganisation. dont forget the private sector in this as the tories passed a rule that if a contract was given to the NHS & theirs was cheaper that they can sue the NHS & this has already happened with virgin care . they also get tax relief so they can undercut the NHS for any contracts given out .the private companies has a 70+% of the medical contracts .

When the NHS was founded the Labour government insisted that the private alternative should still be open to the British people.
Many, if not most,of the top surgeons in the NHS supplement their income with private work. If that top up wasn’t available some would be tempted with the offers of more lucrative work overseas. It must be better to have a top surgeon for three quarters of his time in the NHS than no surgeon at all.

If the market was flooded with, let's say, Electricians, the price of rewires would come down.

It follows that we should train more Doctors to become surgeons!

Instead of paying the EU a £39 billion "divorce bill " why not pump it into the NHS and social care on the basis that we are treating all the immigrants from the world as insisted on by the EU?

gaffer quite right

why not stop the rich & big business sending money out of the country then claiming tax relief on the loan of their own money coming back from the dodgy company they set-up ? .would,nt that bring in billions & not millions ? .

Probably bankrupt the cabinet

It's more complicated than many believe.

NHS

how complicated can it be when the country is being exploited by the rich who dont put a buck bean into the coffers but when they need a ambulance fire engine or the police they expect them to turn up ? .

A typical UK household in the top 10% of earners pays nearly £40,000 in all taxes.
The top 10% pay 27% of all taxes raised.

I don't think facts, however true, will ever stop perpetual moaners gaffer

so you think it,s ok that the rich gets away with paying nowt while everyone else pays their whack ?.

Is paying private classed as " Queue Jumping " ?

It isn't queue jumping when some dental treatment isn't available on the NHS.

It is available , Anne.
It is up to your Dentist whether he/ she will take it on, on the NHS

gaffer wants to get his internet search engine going & start with netflix & what they did & how much they claimed of taxpayers money back .

Not so Granada.... not all dentists are trained in what I had done, plus it is most certainly NOT available on the NHS unless a very traumatic incident has occurred such as having major face construction following an extremely bad accident. Not that, that was my experience, all that I wanted was not to have the NHS alternative.

"The top 10% pay 27% of all taxes raised".

Impossible!

Was it cosmetic, Anne?
If so, that's a different ball game.

Tonker,
I just googled an article that said the top 1% of the highest earners ( over £162,000 pa) pay 27% of the total income tax collected.

No, not really..... it was back upper jaw implants both sides. Owing to age related bone loss, teeth became very loose, most were removed leaving just a couple solid. I tolerated a partial denture for a while before having the remaining ones removed and going for implants combined with a required sinus lift. I'm not calling it cosmetic because no one can see them and I don't look any different.
p.s. not a pleasant procedure.

Implants are not available on the NHS as far as I know, Anne. If they were, We'd all have em

What a funny world we inhabit. You can get gender reassignment surgery on the NHS but not tooth implants.

Broady. Gaffer said - "The top 10% pay 27% of all taxes raised"
The key word being "all".
If he'd said, "The top 10% pay 27% of all p.a.y.e. tax raised", it would have been more believable.

As for "the top 1% highest earners (over £162,000 p.a.)", well, I can't believe that only 1% earn over £162,000 p.a.!
Unless, like I said earlier, the figures refer to p.a.y.e. employees.

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"What a funny world we inhabit. You can get gender reassignment surgery on the NHS but not tooth implants."

Do you mean a sex change, Broady? Don't sugar coat it!
If so, I want my teeth looking like a lady

If you had teeth which looked like that, wouldn't you have trouble with mastication?


Anne, I think that I am heading in the same direction. Would you recommend implants from the start, or trying with a partial denture first.

I would have gone for implants from the start but it really does matter what/where and how many. At one stage I continued with a modified denture to allow some healing to occur. Only your dentist will be able to advise. It usually is a long process owing to the healing between stages, that's how it was for me.

Cheers, thanks, Anne.