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people have questioned my faith
Started by: laughing gravy (3445) Report abuse
because i dont believe in god,today or over the weekend doctors at wigan infirmary are turning off the oxygen of a woman who finds comfort believing in god my mother..i wonder if god will step in and save her?? or will i be right knowing that all this bible bullocks is just that bullocks!!!

Posted by: laughing gravy (3445) Report abuse
aslo my sister who is a mental health nurse put a post on facebook last night that really upset me.

she wrote" i can spend all day and night holding the hand of a person contemplating suicide,but she does not like holding the hand of a person who is scared of dying.."
really brought home the reality of life..

Posted by: kathpressey (4428)  Report abuse
I think you are angry and afraid because your mum is so poorly and I'm sorry about that. If your mum has faith in God then it will bring her comfort as it did my mum in her final days.

Posted by: roylew (2672) Report abuse
I believe that somewhere in the great somewhere hears every word

Posted by: whups (2657)  Report abuse
if backtracking was an olympic sport we,ve just seen a gold medal performance.

Posted by: momac (8679)  Report abuse
Whups..

LG...be grateful that your Mum has her faith in God to comfort her.

Posted by: laughing gravy (3445) Report abuse
whups where have i back tracked?? i'm waiting for the sp called god she believes in to save her!
WHUPS MOMAC CAN YOU PLEASE TELL ME THE CHANCES OF THAT HAPPENING, PLEASE DONT IGNORE MY REQUEST FOR AN ANSWER..

Posted by: momac (8679)  Report abuse
L.G,can you tell me please why you're always so angry..and just to let you
in on a little secret,God didn't save my Mam when it was her time,he didn't
save my Dad or my Brother..just think about it.Have you any idea how
many people there would be on this planet if they were all saved,there
wouldn't be enough room to swing a cat round.there wouldn't be enough
food to go around. and we'd probably all turn to cannibalism.Can you
imagine it LG..just use your brain love and stop being so ruddy angry and
unhappy...I hope your Mum finds peace.

Posted by: mindar (369) Report abuse
WE are all born to die.There is no getting away from the fact. Have faith in the knowledge that your mum will be going to a better place. If you say how do I know that, I dont, but I have faith.

"questioned my faith" what faith would that be? you dont believe, so you have no faith.

Posted by: whups (2657)  Report abuse
guys there is something seriously wrong with this guy . he,s same whatever he puts on . i suggest we keep a very wide berth .everything is mr angry i,m afraid.

Posted by: momac (8679)  Report abuse
Whups..you're right,he's just a wind up merchant and I fell for it,but no more.

Posted by: laughing gravy (3445) Report abuse
wind up merchant eh!! my mum passed away an hour ago and you call me sick?? calling me a LIAR at this time..

Posted by: laughing gravy (3445) Report abuse
her name was margaret janet susan holland feel free to contact pemberton ward to enquire on how she is?

Posted by: momac (8679)  Report abuse
I'm very sorry about your Mum LG..may she rest in peace.

Posted by: broady (13143)   Report abuse
LG,
So sorry to hear of your loss. May she Rest In Peace.

Posted by: laughing gravy (3445) Report abuse
thank you both....

Posted by: Diston (116) Report abuse
Sorry to hear about your mum LG,Keep your chin up mate.

Posted by: jathbee (8739) Report abuse
So sorry to hear about your mum but try to find comfort that she had faith and died peacefully in that knowledge may she Rest In Peace.

Posted by: jouell (4385) Report abuse
Very sorry about your Mum LG.. We all have to go through this.. it hurts, but its a fact of life...

Love and Prayers for you and all the family...Rest in Peace Margaret...

Posted by: momac (8679)  Report abuse
LG.I apologise if I've hurt your feelings..I do understand your anger believe
me.

Posted by: nanajacqui (1148)  Report abuse
Take care LG & my thoughts are with you RIP Mum

Posted by: jo anne (31758)   Report abuse
Sorry for your loss, LG, thinking of you.

Posted by: bassman (3589) Report abuse
Sorry for your loss LG.....R.I.P. your Mum.

Posted by: ayrefield (4407) Report abuse
Sincere condolences to you and your family LG.

Posted by: laughing gravy (3445) Report abuse
thanks all for the nice kind words, momac no apology needed as you have not upset me..

Posted by: stars (378)  Report abuse
Sorry for your loss LG RIP your mum, they really are special people mums

Posted by: laughing gravy (3445) Report abuse
thank you stars..

Posted by: Wigan Rover (576) Report abuse
Please accept our families condolences on the sad loss of your Mum LG

Posted by: laughing gravy (3445) Report abuse
thank you Rover..

Posted by: kathpressey (4428)  Report abuse
Death is part of life and dreadfully painful to see your mum die. I don't think she expected God to save her no more than mine did, but, her faith would have given her comfort knowing that she was going on to a better place. That's what faith is. It's not a promise of eternal life here on earth. Who would want that anyway? Your mum was obviously much loved laughing gravy and I'm sure she knew that. Take comfort in that . x

Posted by: laughing gravy (3445) Report abuse
thank you for the lovely words kath,dont want to rake over old coals concerning religion,but my mother was happy the minister said a few words over her yesterday which was a comfort to me i know i come across as maybe too outspoken,if i've learned anything from this experience its probably let people live as they wish and not be too quick to judge thats not to say i've got plans to go to church tho..
edit
just to clarify when i said i've no plans to go to church i meant to pray in future not miss mums funeral..

Posted by: PeterP (6350) Report abuse
Lg may your Mother RIP.Myself I was brought up as a catholic and got married at Holy Trinity(C of E). In the eyes of both churches I am not married ,I did not have a service in the Catholic church and I did not change my religion for the other I now only go to any church for Funerals Weddings Christening but do not take part in anything.

Posted by: laughing gravy (3445) Report abuse
thank you peter..

Posted by: laughing gravy (3445) Report abuse
my mum was born in fort william scotland and was put into a orphanage when very young due to her mothers death at a young age and she asked some time ago when she dies,could i scatter her ashes on her mothers grave,i had already made arrangements to do the north coast 500 with a few mates this year on our bikes,for those who dont know the NC500 is a road trip around the coast of the highlands so it looks like i'l be taking a very special pillion with me..

Posted by: basil brush (9523) Report abuse
Sorry for your loss, LG

Posted by: laughing gravy (3445) Report abuse
thank you basil..

Posted by: billy (25996)  Report abuse
from personal experience ...believe me when i tell yis "ya cant die fer the life of yis...and thats a fact"

Posted by: orrellite (2322) Report abuse
My sincere condolences LG on your sad loss. Do make the scattering on the conclusion of your tour which would be a fitting send off for her. I spent some time working in Caithness a wild but magnificent and beautiful area.

Posted by: laughing gravy (3445) Report abuse
thanks for the kind words orrellite..

Posted by: fireplace6899 (10770)  Report abuse
Laughingstock you are a hypocrite.

Dont answer back you r on ignore.

Posted by: whups (2657)  Report abuse
do you think he,s looking for sympathy fp .

Posted by: 0 years (2869) Report abuse
LG, I've only just read this thread.

Please accept my sincere condolences.

It is no doubt a very difficult time for you but the sadness will fade to be replaced by happy memories.

Your NC500 trip is a fitting tribute.

Posted by: laughing gravy (3445) Report abuse
thank you 0 years..

Posted by: mindar (369) Report abuse
I dont think you can scatter ashes on top of a grave. You may need permission.

Scattering Ashes]

Posted by: laughing gravy (3445) Report abuse
well they cant very well hoover them up mindar..

Posted by: mindar (369) Report abuse
I dont know. They might do. I'm just warning you that you may need permission to scatter them, particularly if you are not the grave owner.

Posted by: PeterP (6350) Report abuse
Mindar who owns a grave most grave plots are in effect "leased" and you have to renew this lease every 100 yearsAshes buried have a lease of 25-30 years

Posted by: lectriclegs (3046) Report abuse
Are they leased off the owner, Peter?

Posted by: mindar (369) Report abuse
Seems so PP The person who leases the plot will need to give permission for ashes to be scatterted. What i'm suggestion is Lg will probably have to re new the lease if no other family have already done so. I'm still not sure if anyone can scatter ashes on top of a grave. They are generally buried within the grave, for which a charge applies.

Posted by: PeterP (6350) Report abuse
Lectriclegs most burial plots are owned by the council/churches

Posted by: laughing gravy (3445) Report abuse
mindar i'll take my chance i can always rig up some great escape trousers no one will ever know..

Posted by: lectriclegs (3046) Report abuse
So you've answered your own question, Peter.

Posted by: mindar (369) Report abuse
"Be advised that cremated remains or as most people call them "ashes" can be stark white, a little like aquarium gravel, and therefore rather conspicuous, not at all like ashes from a fireplace. You may wish to consider a shallow burial" Again there are charges, Still it's up to you and your family to do whatever you wish.

 
 
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