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Saturday, June 5th, 1965...
Started by: jarvo (28125)  Report abuse
...It was well into the afternoon when we boarded the train from a packed Crewe station. The four of us were in high spirits after a day spent spotting at Crewe North and Crewe South. The train, bound for Carlisle, set off on time on a lovely early summer day...



Remembering the bravery of a hero train driver:


A memorial headstone is being unveiled today in a service to honour Wallace Oakes, a hero steam train driver who lost his life saving his passengers on June 5, 1965.

After setting off from Crewe station his train's cabin filled with flames after the engine caught on fire. His fireman escaped from the cab, but Wallace stayed at the controls and brought the train to a halt before falling to the ground, suffering from 80% burns. He died a week later.


Wallace Oaks was posthumously awarded the George Cross and the Carnegie Hero Trust medal - the only railwayman to ever receive this honour - and also had an express locomotive named after him. He was buried without a headstone and his medal sold by the family. Now more than 50 years after his death, a group of ex-railwayman and a journalist from a railway magazine have raised the funds to provide a headstone for his grave...


We were on that train. After emergency first aid from a Territorial Army unit who were travelling to Preston, the fireman survived. We were delayed over an hour as a relief train took over. Wallace Oaks saved our lives that day...

God bless.

Posted by: berylh (1613) Report abuse
An incredible story of an incredible man and how wonderful that he be remembered in this way.

Posted by: jarvo (28125)  Report abuse
It's funny, Beryl, but when I eventually arrived home that sunny June evening, my story was greeted with disbelief.

It was only the day after when the story appeared in a Sunday newspaper that my parents became aware of just how close I and my three friends had come to disaster. I dread to think what may have occurred if Wally Oaks hadn't stayed at his post.

A true hero. Never to be forgotten.



R.I.P.

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (2305) Report abuse
A hero he was yes, but you weren't on that train were you jarvo

Posted by: jarvo (28125)  Report abuse
Yes, I was, TTS.

And I'm probably only here today because of the bravery of Wally Oakes.

Posted by: kathpressey (4436)  Report abuse
A brave man.

Posted by: broady (13170)   Report abuse
No comment.

Posted by: bridger (inactive) Report abuse
He must have been reliving it yesterday, he looked very dishevelled when he acknowledged me when out with his dog.

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (2305) Report abuse
jarvo

The train which caught fire wasn't scheduled to stop at any other station before Carlisle, so you spent all day spotting on Crewe station and then decided to travel home to Wigan via Carlisle ...

Come off it you silly sod, because you wouldn't have had time to travel to Carlisle and then get back down to Wigan and on that journey from Carlisle to Wigan, you would probably have to change at Preston

Posted by: lectriclegs (3073) Report abuse
^^^^^^^^^
Oh dear, it seems the fantasist strikes again.

Will he ever learn?

Posted by: broady (13170)   Report abuse
If you go back through his posts he was probably having a pint in the Clarence and watching Wolves from the directors box on that day as well.

Posted by: lectriclegs (3073) Report abuse

Posted by: jathbee (8825) Report abuse
Oh dear. What some one will do to put themselves in the limelight. How totally, totally sad.😔

Posted by: jarvo (28125)  Report abuse
...And what of the brave driver that probably saved my life?



This thread is about him, not me...

Posted by: bridger (inactive) Report abuse
We were on that train

Wallace Oaks saved our lives that day...

Yes,I can see it's all about you.

I thought you would have had more to say to me in passing yesterday.

Posted by: jathbee (8825) Report abuse
You made it about you.
Probably saved your life?????
You weren't even on the train. Your pathetic play on words won't wash.
Lies, damn lies. You should be ashamed. That man was a total hero, he sacrificed his life to save others and you want the limelight on the back of his life. Take the shame Jarvo, you deserve no less.

Posted by: jarvo (28125)  Report abuse
I wasn't on the train?

How have you come to that conclusion?

Posted by: jathbee (8825) Report abuse
Let's just say that I have inside information. 😎 And I am not about to reveal my sources. But can you prove without doubt that you were indeed on the train that caught fire that dreadful day when Wallace Oakes so bravely gave up his life in order to save his passengers.

Posted by: grimshaw (979)  Report abuse
Jathbee,

Posted by: laughing gravy (3467) Report abuse
bridger do you make a habit of ignoring people you meet who are on here,you've obviously ignored me in the past and now it seems jarvo, may i ask why you've never let it be known you know us?

Posted by: bridger (inactive) Report abuse
he acknowledged me when out with his dog

Posted by: jarvo (28125)  Report abuse
Inside information?

Can you elaborate?

Posted by: jarvo (28125)  Report abuse
...Thought not.

Posted by: bridger (inactive) Report abuse
Would you have been as friendly when you said hi yesterday, has you known it were me, Jarvo?

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (2305) Report abuse
I have been in same queue as jarvo in Lidl at Pemberton after him moaning about Lidl being built and him objecting to it, he was buying some milk

Posted by: chatty (5885)  Report abuse
jarvo, tell em what happened whilst walking past that grassy knoll in Dallas when on holiday a couple of years earlier!

Posted by: laughing gravy (3467) Report abuse
i ask again bridger,why the secrecy of who you are???

Posted by: jathbee (8825) Report abuse
Jarvo, do you not read too well or is it your comprehension that's the problem. I said that I was not prepared to disclose who told me and if I did you most certainly wouldn't like it. Some friends eh.

Posted by: broady (13170)   Report abuse
chatty,

Posted by: jathbee (8825) Report abuse
Well some one tell us what happened at the grassy knoll.

Posted by: jathbee (8825) Report abuse
Is it another fantastical story.

Posted by: lectriclegs (3073) Report abuse
The assassination of JFK, Jath.



Posted by: jathbee (8825) Report abuse
I know that.😂 But what has that to do with Jarvo

Posted by: grimshaw (979)  Report abuse
Jathbee.

It was chatty with one of his cutting remarks re jarvo about the grassy knoll in dallas..

Posted by: broady (13170)   Report abuse
No direct inference but this thread got me thinking about Tom Pepper. I googled for the origin of the phrase and it was interesting to see how many interpretations there were of itís origins.

Posted by: basil brush (9574) Report abuse
I see the "jarvo bashers" are out in force.....bah, bah.

Posted by: broady (13170)   Report abuse
Good to see the electric has been re-connected. Can you not use your giro to spread the £10.00 allowance out over the week??

Posted by: jathbee (8825) Report abuse
😂😂😂

Posted by: basil brush (9574) Report abuse
Bah, bah, I'm guessing boredy has not grovelled to tuther site enough to be let back on.

Posted by: jathbee (8825) Report abuse

Posted by: bridger (inactive) Report abuse
Posted by: laughing gravy (3151)2,500+ Report abuse

i ask again bridger,why the secrecy of who you are???

Replied: 4th Feb 2018 at 16:44


There's no secrecy, LG. A number of people in this forum have had the pleasure of my company.

Posted by: jarvo (28125)  Report abuse
...Including a couple of private bailiffs...

Posted by: basil brush (9574) Report abuse
Hahaha

Posted by: jarvo (28125)  Report abuse

Posted by: bridger (inactive) Report abuse
(Comment removed because it broke the rules)

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (2305) Report abuse
builderboy, sounds like he is an alright type of bloke

Posted by: basil brush (9574) Report abuse
Not that much secrecy, LG, he already said he as a degree and he's a solicitor

Posted by: basil brush (9574) Report abuse
Let's just say that I have inside information

HAHAHA, what's that smell

Posted by: bridger (inactive) Report abuse
I'm sure you'll be able to prove both of those statements, won't you Walsh?

Posted by: basil brush (9574) Report abuse
It's up to you to prove that's it's true, not as anyone gives a monkeys,Tom/Terry, without proof people might think your full of it

Posted by: bridger (inactive) Report abuse
Obviously you are too thick to realise the burden of proof falls on the statement maker.

Posted by: basil brush (9574) Report abuse
Tom/Terry soon back to his nasty ways, getting abusive when he doesn't get his own way.

Posted by: broady (13170)   Report abuse
I suspect a shift change. Two posts in succession with reasonable grammar and spelling.

Posted by: lectriclegs (3073) Report abuse
Reasonable for a twelve year old.

Posted by: bridger (inactive) Report abuse
I guess you aren't going to prove the statement you made then, Walsh?

Posted by: basil brush (9574) Report abuse
Bah,bah.

Only 2 missing for a full house

Posted by: bridger (inactive) Report abuse
No proof then? Thought not.

Posted by: basil brush (9574) Report abuse
Didn't you say you had a degree and before you got slung off before you said you was trying to be a lawyer

Posted by: broady (13170)   Report abuse
Presumably you had the same occupation every time you were skimmed off?? Milk Monitor.

Posted by: basil brush (9574) Report abuse
Have you not got back on WR, yet, boredy.

You need to grovel more.

Posted by: jathbee (8825) Report abuse

Posted by: basil brush (9574) Report abuse
Nice to see jathbee the hypocrite posting

Posted by: bridger (inactive) Report abuse
I did say I have a degree, because I do.

This is what you wrote:

he already said he as a degree and he's a solicitor

Can you see where you went wrong? I don't mean the incorrect use of 'as' BTW.

Posted by: basil brush (9574) Report abuse
So have I, see it's easy, but like I said if you don't prove it people might think your full of it, me I don't give a monkeys about people I don't like.

Posted by: jathbee (8825) Report abuse
😂😂😂

Posted by: basil brush (9574) Report abuse
Hypocrites joining in now, who said she wasn't having any thing to do with people who cause arguments but yet follows the main ones around

Posted by: jarvo (28125)  Report abuse
How sad. A thread to remember a brave man is wrecked by disrespectful comments.

Posted by: peter g (1849)  Report abuse
So were you on that train then? jarvo

Posted by: grimshaw (979)  Report abuse
Answer the question jarvo .

YES OR No.

Posted by: basil brush (9574) Report abuse
But look who's ruined it AGAIN...."usual suspects"

Posted by: jathbee (8825) Report abuse

Posted by: basil brush (9574) Report abuse
If only backtracker hadn't been a liar there would have been one less

Posted by: builderboy (1923) Report abuse
I can confirm to all you doubters that he was.
I haven't confirmed it with his mum and dad as they have both passed away, but I have heard it discussed when listening him reminisce with his brothers and sisters - some of whom are younger and some of whom are older.
What you can check out for yourselves is his love of railways and collecting locomotive numbers - there are numerous threads that refer to this on this website.
What I have written will be accepted by all reasonable thinking posters and will be dismissed by his detractors - feel free to please yourselves as it is of little importance to me.

Posted by: bridger (inactive) Report abuse
If I buy you a pint, will you also jump to my defence when I dig myself into a hole I can't get myself out of?

It's more than you apparently get out of the Bard.

Posted by: laughing gravy (3467) Report abuse
make it stella cidre and i will bridger...

Posted by: jathbee (8825) Report abuse
He's always on his coatails to jump to his defence when he digs himself into a hole. All of builderboy's so called evidence is hearsay. Jarvis even admits his own family didn't believe him. I wonder why 😂

Posted by: jathbee (8825) Report abuse
Do I believe Jarvis. No way. Prove it Jarvo. Stop hiding behind your sad mate.

Posted by: builderboy (1923) Report abuse
Why am I being categorised as his 'sad mate' Jathbee?

When responding please change the habits of a lifetime and think about what you write before you post.

It will still doubtless be pathetic because you possess little intellect, but at least it won't be laughably so.

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (2305) Report abuse
jarvo

The thing with you is that you come out with so much nasty crap on here, that when it comes to you telling the truth, then it is a case of 'the boy who cried wolf' and nobody believed him, are you sure it wasn't the case that you were out train spotting that day and you heard about the accident and then told everyone that you were on that train, inclooding builderboy and you were actually showing off

But ultimately you were talking crap weren't you and you even lied to your mate builderboy and here we are 52 years later and you are still lying to your mate builderboy

Posted by: basil brush (9574) Report abuse
Well said builderboy, every thread that jarvo starts gets ruined thanks to backtrack/hypocrite jathbee and the rest of the"nasty uns"

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (2305) Report abuse
basil

I suppose you were on that train too

Posted by: jarvo (28125)  Report abuse
TTS:

Your cheap wind-ups are become rather embarrassing, even by your standards.

You say that I post nasty stuff on here. Really? I suggest you study the words of others who seek to ridicule; the same ones will appear time after time.

Whether you believe me or not, it is your choice; but it is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth...So help me God.

Enjoy reading your Daily Mirror.

Next!

Posted by: basil brush (9574) Report abuse
Tts, no I wasn't, why don't you have a do at the "usual suspects" instead of selective criticism

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (2305) Report abuse
The boy who cried Wolf



And nobody believed him

Posted by: jathbee (8825) Report abuse
You are a sad mate, mate. Why do you feel the need to defend him. Let him fight his own battles. You are a selective reader too. Intellect??? Do me a favour 😂😂😂

Posted by: basil brush (9574) Report abuse
You mean like you do backtrack/hypocrite

Posted by: jathbee (8825) Report abuse
😂😂😂

Posted by: basil brush (9574) Report abuse
Spineless, has to tag onto others

Posted by: jathbee (8825) Report abuse

Posted by: basil brush (9574) Report abuse
See what I mean, even had the chance to speak her mind to jarvo but backed out.... spineless

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (2305) Report abuse
The Fox who cried Wolf

Posted by: basil brush (9574) Report abuse
Just stating a fact, you 2 are very similar

Posted by: jathbee (8825) Report abuse
😂

Posted by: basil brush (9574) Report abuse
Unless she was lying again

Posted by: jathbee (8825) Report abuse
😂😂😂

Posted by: basil brush (9574) Report abuse
She only picks on old people

Posted by: builderboy (1923) Report abuse
TTS

As I didn't live in the area 52 years ago I couldn't have known Jarvo, but never let the truth get in the way of a good story,eh?



Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (2305) Report abuse
The trooth, the hole trooth and nowt but trooth, so help him Wolverampton Wanderers

Posted by: basil brush (9574) Report abuse
bridger (339)100+ Report abuse
(Comment removed because it broke the rules)

Replied

Not took Tom/Terry to get back to his old ways

Posted by: jathbee (8825) Report abuse
😂😂😂

Posted by: bridger (inactive) Report abuse
Someone been brown-nosing again?

Yet they'll allow the Bard to post lies. Strange that.

Posted by: basil brush (9574) Report abuse
Here's another who has had "comment removed" at least by posting smileys she's not coming out with ignorant and arrogant posts or lies

Posted by: jathbee (8825) Report abuse
😂😂😂

Posted by: basil brush (9574) Report abuse
Can't understand why so many of the "nasty uns" are jealous of jarvo.

Posted by: jathbee (8825) Report abuse
😂😂😂😂😂😂💤💤💤

Posted by: laughing gravy (3467) Report abuse
WAS BRIDGER PUSHED OR DID HE JUMP?

Posted by: builderboy (1923) Report abuse
If admin decide to ban someone I think that they should announce it, and the reasons behind their thinking. At least this would draw a line in the sand as to what constitutes unacceptable behaviour.

I must confess that I didn't find anything bridger had written was too bad, but I obviously don't read every posting.

Posted by: basil brush (9574) Report abuse
Only a few "nasty uns" left now.

Posted by: jathbee (8825) Report abuse
😂😂😂

Posted by: basil brush (9574) Report abuse
And here's one of them..... finally posting faces after builderboy ruined her and showed her for what she really is

Posted by: jathbee (8825) Report abuse
😂😂😂

Posted by: basil brush (9574) Report abuse
I hope builderboy doesn't turn up or hypocrite/lying jathbee will fire off again.

Posted by: jathbee (8825) Report abuse
😂😂😂

 
 
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