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St Patrick's Day...
Started by: jarvo (27456)  Report abuse
What a load of tosh.

Sick to death of watery folk pretending they're Irish and dressed in ridiculous outfits.

What's all the fuss about?

Let the Irish get on with it in their own way. Leave us out FGS.

Have you ever seen an Irishman dressed as St George on April 23rd?

Kerry dancers my a--e!

Posted by: section 8 (2868)  Report abuse
"What's all the fuss about?"

It's basically an excuse to get locked or langers.

Posted by: joemaplin (85) Report abuse
Brian boru club is bangin tonite..standin room only

Posted by: jathbee (8044) Report abuse
Another totally negative, mean minded post by Jarvis the spoiler.

What on earth is wrong with people enjoying life. Victor Meldrew and no mistake.

Posted by: jathbee (8044) Report abuse
By the way Jarvis we have Irish decendents in Wigan. I have both Irish and Welsh blood

Posted by: broady (12329)   Report abuse
What is the day those of German extract celebrate? Dresden day!!!

Posted by: graneyjoseph (4552)   Report abuse
what date is St.Jarvo day ?

Posted by: jarvo (27456)  Report abuse
GJ:

PC Plod: Your comments on Dresden are deplorable. Dresden was the Allies biggest war crime. Shame on you.

Posted by: broady (12329)   Report abuse
Deplorable in your opinion. Just remember calling my Mother regarding a Miner's wife. You cannot keep going on a about Mill girls and Miners wives without retribution.

Posted by: jarvo (27456)  Report abuse
You despicable person. Shame on you.

Posted by: broady (12329)   Report abuse
Slagging people off and their heritage isn't a one way street.

Posted by: jarvo (27456)  Report abuse
...You should read about what happened at Dresden...

As for the Irish?

Well, we'll leave it there then.

Posted by: roylew (2046) Report abuse
There are more Irish over here at the moment with the Cheltenham festival being held the last few days...bet they had a great time ...win or lose

Posted by: wigvet (3186) Report abuse
The miserable gits who decry those who wish each other good tidings on ‘Paddys Day’ are probably the same people who wish each other ‘Merry CHRISTmas’ and yet don’t believe in the birth of Christ.

I spent yesterday afternoon around Liverpool on the ‘black stuff’ and soaked up the ‘craic’ and raised a glass to my forefather Paddy Griffin and the rest of the Munster boys who were forced away from their country because of poverty and hunger and helped make the Parish of St. Patricks in Scholes a wonderful place to be brought up in
Thanks Ireland ….and Paddy!

Posted by: jarvo (27456)  Report abuse
To Paddy Griffin...A true Irishman.

Posted by: jathbee (8044) Report abuse
You have the misplaced arrogance of your heritage, jarvis. They started two world wars and lost both. They are trying to win another in Europe but this country won't be ruled by the likes of your ancestors. Loser.

As Broady has said, don't expect to put down others without retaliation.

You have no respect or regard for others, expect the same.

Your twisted bitterness of others knows no bounds.

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (1465) Report abuse
jarvo

Yoo should stop acting mick ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esOiB_fanzI

Posted by: billy (25757)  Report abuse
paddy's land marks are to be found all around the globe....any tunnel..any tower..any highway... any span bridge ect ect ect...yeah, ya can thank paddy fer that mush.as fer your land mark...NEGATIVITY.

Posted by: momac (7965)  Report abuse
Billy..I refuse to rise to his bait..

Posted by: lectriclegs (2699) Report abuse
And what a baiter he is, Momac.

Posted by: Pennywise (inactive) Report abuse
Mass?

Posted by: jathbee (8044) Report abuse

Posted by: jarvo (27456)  Report abuse
Typical vitriol from the Wiganworld's wicked nun.

I won't rise to your ignorance and bigotry.

Posted by: jathbee (8044) Report abuse
Now that is laughable coming from the bigoted, Professor Noogy. .

Posted by: jarvo (27456)  Report abuse
Catholic my ass!

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1267) Report abuse
Your being unpleasant today Jarvo have you got some swarf in your underpants

Posted by: gaffer (5879)   Report abuse
St.Patrick

Posted by: 0 years (2436) Report abuse
Couldn't agree more Jarvo. If you were born in Ireland you are Irish, if you were born in England you are English. My Grandparents were Irish but as I was born here, I am 100% English, it's not a choice, just fact.

I have no problem whatsoever with people celebrating the fact that one of their descendants was born in a different country, in fact it is none of my business, but it doesn't make them Irish. All of this pretence is daft but if it is an excuse to throw loads of beer down their necks, spend money on daft hats and spread happiness then fair enough, we could do with a bit more happiness in this world.

I had an acquaintance who I saw in town one St. Patrick's day and he looked very smart, when questioned he said proudly that he was out for the day celebrating as he was Irish. When I commented that he didn't sound Irish, he sheepishly said that it was in fact his Grandfather that was Irish not himself.

Some time after I saw him again looking smart but this time on St. George's day. He was out celebrating because it was a proud day and as he is an ex serviceman having served in Northern Ireland, he felt it a cause for celebration.

Initially I thought it was a strange mixture of loyalties but then again if the chap wants to celebrate whatever he wants to celebrate then fair play to him. Life is too short to be grumpy and judgemental.

But he is NOT Irish.






Posted by: spiderwoman (826) Report abuse
It was wonderful to see St Patricks's day celebrated all around the globe!

I'm second generation Irish and I love it. There's thousands of Irish and Irish descendants in Wigan and 70 million worldwide. Not "pretending" to be Irish but "Proud" of their Irish heritage..

Posted by: 0 years (2436) Report abuse
I agree with everything you say Spiderwoman...but you are not Irish. I'm sure you agree.

Posted by: roylew (2046) Report abuse
I have no problem with it at all...but I think there has been more sadness than happiness over the years

Posted by: spiderwoman (826) Report abuse
0 years, you don't have to be born in Ireland to be proud of your Irish roots.
I am English also, but because I have Irish parents I am also an Irish citizen (under Irish law)

If you have an Irish grandparent you can represent Ireland at national level in sports, football, rugby etc. I think you can also obtain an Irish passport and you may also become an Irish citizen if you so wish.

So whilst you may not consider yourself Irish, the Irish will certainly consider you as one of their own..

Posted by: chatty (4921)  Report abuse
Go on then what did you say to your "acquaintance"when you saw him marching in the gay pride parade?

Posted by: spiderwoman (826) Report abuse
Correct, 0 years, I do consider myself English. I'm just saying that under Irish law, I am an Irish citizen automatically.

Posted by: 0 years (2436) Report abuse
Good grief Spiderwoman, I didn't realise that I could take Irish citizenship.

This could be my way out of this Brexit nightmare!

Posted by: chatty (4921)  Report abuse
So all you "English" with "Irish roots"do you celebrate St Georges day just as fervently?

Posted by: broady (12329)   Report abuse
I am not Irish but lived in Belfast for two years and Dublin for two years so I celebrate St. Patrick's Day and enjoy myself. That may be because hardly anyone celebrates St. George's Day ( what a pity that is) Unless I am wrong you can even get in trouble for flying the Union flag. Olther countries are rightly proud of their heritage and celebrate it.

Posted by: spiderwoman (826) Report abuse
Yes, you can become an Irish citizen, 0 years. You just need to register.
And yes, it is genuinely a way round the Brexit thing if it gets messy. You can get an Irish passport for starters..

Posted by: 0 years (2436) Report abuse
Chatty, if he had been and he had sought my opinion,(and there would be no reason why he should), then I would have said that it was none of my business why he was there but to have a good time.

If he was a straight person and decided to join a gay parade then that wouldn't necessarily make him gay, just a genuine human being with friends in all areas of humanity. Presumably he was just there for an entertaining day, not unlike the participants in St Patrick's day parades who aren't Irish.

Posted by: chatty (4921)  Report abuse
Sorry 0 years Brexit means out of Europe, must be getting used to it by now.

Posted by: spiderwoman (826) Report abuse
That's a good question, Chatty. I think if a big fuss was made of St George's day then I would celebrate it also. But it's hardly recognised at all. There's no cards in the shops, decorations or dress ups, parades or St George's day parties. There doesn't seem to be the same national pride associated with being English than there does with the Irish..It is a shame.

Posted by: 0 years (2436) Report abuse
You know something Spiderwoman, thinking about all of this, the antagonism towards St Patricks day could be borne out of envy amongst the English regarding the fact that people make a fuss and go over the top about St Patrick's day when St George's day is virtually ignored.

As I have said, I have no problem with the celebrations but can't understand why people shout that they are Irish when they are English. You summed it up nicely when you said it's not about pretence but more about pride.

Posted by: wigvet (3186) Report abuse
Yes I was out around Liverpool on Friday and there were far too many people out enjoying themselves! You should not need a reason to enjoy yourself, just do it!

But the reason we're less inclined to celebrate our ‘national day’ in the way in which the Irish, Welsh and Scots celebrate theirs is that we have never been oppressed in the way that they all were; mostly by the English I hasten to add. Neither do we feel that another country is dominating us and therefore feel the need to be fiercely protective of our heritage and language. And of course we don’t have a thick black stout brewery or a whiskey distillery marketing the day for us!

Posted by: Stardelta (5630) Report abuse
The rise in popularity of St Patrick's day over the last decade or so and the suggestion it should be celebrated with a few pints of the black stuff is all down to clever marketing by Guinness and its parent company Diageo.....nothing else.

They have another one going which has yet to be mentioned. 'Arthur's day' again we are encouraged, by them, to drink the stuff purely for nostalgic reasons.

I like a pint or two of Guinness but I am not going to be told when and why I should drink it. However some people will fall inevitably for what is nothing more than a marketing ploy. Such is the power of the media

Posted by: fossil (6555) Report abuse
Wigvet,My son was out with you on Friday,he tells me he had a great day😀

Posted by: wigvet (3186) Report abuse
now you've got me thinking fossil....there were a few of us..

Posted by: fossil (6555) Report abuse
He was on a bull he said😀

Posted by: wigvet (3186) Report abuse
he was - have you seen the video clip!!!

Posted by: jathbee (8044) Report abuse
I don't understand why the OP has launched such a vehement attack on people who celebrate St. Patrick's day or in fact celebrate any day that they feel an attachment or connection to.
After all he follows and supports a football team he has no connection to. His own admission is he was born and bred in Pem so why does he not support his town team. Talk about hypocrisy, his knows no bounds.

Posted by: fossil (6555) Report abuse
Not yet wigvet,I will investigate😀

Posted by: roylew (2046) Report abuse
Just found out I can play for wales....

Posted by: jathbee (8044) Report abuse
I'm multi national. Irish and Welsh . I don't think I would qualify for either team

Posted by: britboy (6713) Report abuse
Danny Boy

Posted by: spiderwoman (826) Report abuse
Ha ha, Britboy. Muppets just murdered one of my favourite songs,the most beautiful and poignant Irish anthem of all time...and it was v funny! Lol.

0 years,I agree, the antagonism could be about envy that St George's is virtually ignored, whilst people go mad about St Patrick's day.

I think Wigvet has a point as well when he says the English haven't felt oppressed or dominated by another country like the Irish, Scots or Welsh have.

Posted by: spiderwoman (826) Report abuse
Ha ha, Britboy. Muppets just murdered one of my favourite songs,the most beautiful and poignant Irish anthem of all time...and it was v funny! Lol.

0 years,I agree, the antagonism could be about envy that St George's is virtually ignored, whilst people go mad about St Patrick's day.

I think Wigvet has a point as well when he says the English haven't felt oppressed or dominated by another country like the Irish, Scots or Welsh have.

Posted by: aussie94 (1506) Report abuse
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Posted by: section 8 (2868)  Report abuse
St Patricks day is celebrated more as it's traditionally more fun than any of the other saints days. The Irish are stereotyped as being more friendly and fun than English so it's just a day were we like to join in on the most fun saints day party.

0 years, nationality is based on parentage and choice more than where you were born. Cliff Richard is not Indian.

Posted by: 0 years (2436) Report abuse
If Cliff Richard was born in India then his nationality should be Indian. Having said that, India was under British rule when he was born so it is a different matter altogether.

Either way, the fact that an administrative agreement between governments allows a child to take British citizenship (such as servicemens children born overseas) is neither here nor there.

Parentage should not come into it, you cannot be 75% born in England and 25% born in Ireland.

 
 
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