Robert Jones born 1917
My Aunt by marriage Elizabeth Ashurst (aunt Bessie) married her fiance Peter Jones just before he left to go to fight in WW1. He was killed in the Dardenelles. I have the memorial card passed on from my mum. Today I received free access to the 1939 census and decided to look up some of my relatives. I found Aunty Bessie living at 1a School Lane with her father James Ashurst, her then husband Marmaduke Barrett Baggaley (uncle Duke) and a Robert Jones born in 1917. As he was 22 in 1939 he would have been called up in 1940. The name Robert Jones was new to me having never been mentioned to me as a child. I found his birth and it says mothers maiden name Ashurst. So my query is --- I'm sure Peter was killed in around 1915, Robert was born in December 1917. So is he Peter's son / are the dates incorrect / did Robert die in ww2??. Any help greatly appreciated.
Started: 9th May 2018 at 18:25
A Robert Jones with the same birthdate 28/12/17 died in August 1999 in Wigan.
Marriage: 3 Aug 1918 St George, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Marmaduke Barrett Baggaley - 37, Wagon Examiner, Bachelor, 14 Orchard St.
Elizabeth Brown - 27, Millhand, Widow, 10 School St.
Groom's Father: Thomas Baggaley, deceased, Stonemason
Bride's Father: James Ashurst, Stensor man
Witness: John Thomas Baggaley; Ellen Derbyshire
Married by Banns by: C. D. Wood Vicar
Register: Marriages 1918 - 1928, Page 3, Entry 6
Source: Original register at Wigan Archives
Marriage: 19 Aug 1914 St George, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Peter Brown - 22, Collier, Bachelor, 1 Marsh's Court, Chapel Lane
Elizabeth Ashurst - 23, Spinner, Spinster, 26 School St.
Groom's Father: Joseph Brown, Collier
Bride's Father: James Ashurst, Collier
Witness: Marmaduke Baggaley; Ellen Ashurst
Married by Licence
Register: Marriages 1908 - 1918, Page 164, Entry 327
Source: Original register at Wigan Archives
Marriage: 13 Oct 1917 St George, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Thomas Jones - 23, Stentor man, Bachelor, 9 School St.
Lily Ashurst - 21, Weaver, Spinster, 10 School St.
Groom's Father: John Jones, Labourer
Bride's Father: James Ashurst, Mangler
Witness: Robert Derbyshire; Elizabeth Brown
Married by Banns by: C. D. Wood Vicar
Register: Marriages 1908 - 1918, Page 238, Entry 476
Source: Original register at Wigan Archives
Have you got a mix up with Jones and Brown?
Thomas and Lily both died in 1928 which could explain Robert living with his grandfather.
Replied: 9th May 2018 at 18:51
Last edited by mygriffiths: 9th May 2018 at 20:19:00
Thank you so much for clearing that up. Yes I think I have got my Browns and Jones mixed up. The only query is that Lily was the sister of Elizabeth (Bessie) and Ellen (Nellie). Nellie married my Uncle Bob, Robert Derbyshire. Lily was married to a Russian ??? Robert Slonker (name shortened from something I could not spell. This is all memories from childhood. I can remember Lily and Robert when I used to visit Uncle Bob in the 1940's. They had a son. Not sure of his name possibly Geoffrey although as I mixed up Brown and Jones it could be anything. So not sure of the other Lily Ashurst. Thanks for any help with this.
Replied: 10th May 2018 at 11:17
Another sister!
Marriage: 9 Feb 1929 St George, Wigan, Lancashire, England
John Robert Slonker - 26, Blacksmith Striker, Bachelor, 64 George St.
Ada Ashurst - 21, Spinster, 10 School St.
Groom's Father: James Slonker, Fitter
Bride's Father: James Ashurst, Collier
Witness: John Sharples; Ellen Derbyshire
Married by Banns by: R. O. Shone Vicar
Register: Marriages 1928 - 1942, Page 5, Entry 9
Source: Original register at Wigan Archives
Baptism: 18 Aug 1929 St George, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Eric Slonker - [Child] of John Robert Slonker & Ada
Born: 1 Aug 1929
Abode: 10 School St.
Occupation: Labourer
Baptised by: F. Taylor, Officiating Minister
Source: Original register at Wigan Archives
Baptism: 12 May 1940 St George, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Geoffrey Slonker - [Child] of John Robert Slonker & Ada
Born: 4 May 1940
Abode: 183 Woodhouse Lane, Wigan
Occupation: Blacksmith's Striker
Baptised by: J. Martin
Source: Original register at Wigan Archives
Replied: 10th May 2018 at 12:08
Last edited by mygriffiths: 10th May 2018 at 12:34:20
OMG you are brilliant. I have to confess to several senior moments. That's my excuse and I.m sticking to it.
Thank you so much to mygriffiths
Replied: 10th May 2018 at 19:45
I am glad if you have cleared up a few memories ad placed Lily as I see youur uncle Bob was witness at her wedding.
Replied: 10th May 2018 at 20:08
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