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election
Started by: tommy c (592) Report abuse
can the brexit party get in wigan we know the tories cant

Posted by: TerryW (2521) Report abuse
I doubt it. There is only one mindset on that score in Wigan.

Posted by: chatty (6983)  Report abuse
You can't deride the electorate of Wigan.
We've been told for three and a half years on here that the majority wanted Brexit and they know exactly what they want so it must be delivered, therefore I am quite sure whatever they vote for in the general election will be abided by without a peep off anyone.
Or do some people just slag them off when it suits their agenda.

Posted by: laughing gravy (4940) Report abuse
chatty no agenda here i did not vote because it said 350 million pound on a bus! 17 million want out,where do you stand on democracy?

Posted by: fedup (150) Report abuse
Everyone should read the Brexit party's policies as published on their website. Not found any of their ideas yet that I disagree with! Political reform-making sure Postal Voting works,abolishing the House of Lords, make MPs subject to recall etc. Scrapping HS2, more money for the regions outside London, More money for Social Care etc,Scrapping Inheritance Tax, Reduce Business Rates in High Streets outside M25, Scrap interest on Student Loans and many more ideas! Time we had a political shake up as the present 2 (or 3) party system is discredited!

Posted by: baker boy (14908) Report abuse
brexit party for me and more astonishingly brexit party for the mrs,i can tell you without fear or favour as far left as whups,handsomeminer ,grim, sad dog etc before they turned their backs on my mrs.
when someone like my wife gets angry and she has been about the labour parties brexit betrayal, beware foruvogue and nandy.

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3731) Report abuse
Lisa Nandy has never had a real job and she's a Labour MP.
What a topsy turvy party Labour is

Posted by: chatty (6983)  Report abuse
Don't worry the Brexiteers of Wigan wont re elect her....will they.

Posted by: Stardelta (6956) Report abuse
BB?

Can you explain to me exactly how a political party less than a year old with literally no political or governing experience are going to achieve these things and what the up shots of their policies will be including where the money will come from.

Sensible answers only please



Posted by: Stardelta (6956) Report abuse
I assume you have actually asked yourself the same question?

Or are you in the habit of blindly lending yourself and your support to those that promise the earth without providing anything to substantiate the claims?

Posted by: laughing gravy (4940) Report abuse
sd do you agree if folk kept to their word there'd be no need for the brexit party?

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3731) Report abuse
It's the civil service that runs the country, and will advise any new government

Posted by: Stardelta (6956) Report abuse
Quite frankly LG Nigel Fararge has proven himself as big a liar as every other political headliner in this whole sorry affair.

You can't discount and ignore the lies and false promises from one group while supporting the lies and unrealistic promises and claims of another. You may as well vote for someone because you think he is wearing a better looking tie than his opponent.

Too many people, telling too many lies and making too many unrealistic promises solely to feather their own nests, together with too many people guillable enough to not realise it......... that is the root cause of this fiasco.

I am not really a betting man LG but I would quite happily put a fiver on us still being where we are in 5 years time if the mood took me

Posted by: peter israel (615)  Report abuse
my be this will help
General Elections Online

Posted by: whups (3917)   Report abuse
it was,nt binary anyway . if you want to sell yourself down the river vote tory because they will no doubt sell the NHS & it,s contracts to the yanks .it,s no good saying they wont as they have been trying to do it since it,s inception & along with farrage they will do it .and you can forget your free prescriptions & free travel pass too .

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3731) Report abuse
Labour always rabbits on about the tories selling the nhs at election time, they've been doing it for donkeys years,
change the record

Posted by: jathbee (9543) Report abuse
The Tories have already made inroads into privatising the NHS. There will be no stopping them if they are elected again.

Posted by: baker boy (14908) Report abuse
SAD DOG
when the labour party was a year old they had their agenda ,so why can't the brexit party have an agenda .
sensible answer's only please ,foolish man ?.

Posted by: Stardelta (6956) Report abuse
BB.
The Labour Party was founded in 1900 although its origins go back further. During this time they have spent about 25 years in power and it took them 24 years to win a general election and take power.

Now please be kind enough to tell us how much experience the Brexit party has.

Cheers

Posted by: baker boy (14908) Report abuse
how much experience did the labour party have when they first took power.has for the brexit party, its foundations are fromm 1974 when a certain jeremy corbyn was amongst the eurosceptics.
at that time and ever since he has been dead set against europe.apart from when he has to appease the general throng of remoaners from within "his" own party.
touche

Posted by: whups (3917)   Report abuse
wot a load of crap.

Posted by: Stardelta (6956) Report abuse
Ramsey McDonald was the first labour PM in 1924. Given the Labour Party was founded in 1900 the answer to your question is 24 years.

Unfortunately, I don't understand anything else that forms your last comment

Posted by: Stardelta (6956) Report abuse
BB?
Another question for you.

If someone was to send you an email telling you that you were due a tax refund of say £453.45 you would be naturally sceptical and ask yourself several questions before making a conclusion as to if the claim was genuine.

On that basis why would you blindly accept the words of a less than trustworthy individual who promises you and the rest of the country £200bn without asking yourself some similar searching questions?

Posted by: whups (3917)   Report abuse
your wasting your time stardelta you cant reach the unreachable.

Posted by: Stardelta (6956) Report abuse
BB doesn't and never has done.........'answers,

Posted by: laughing gravy (4940) Report abuse
stardelta a easier question for you did a majority of MPs including labour MPs say they would respect the result?

Posted by: whups (3917)   Report abuse
we would,nt be having this conversation if the torys had,nt banned 16 & 17 yrs old a vote.

Posted by: Stardelta (6956) Report abuse
Yes LG I believe they did.

Posted by: laughing gravy (4940) Report abuse
when did 16 and 17 yo vote under labour? i bet you wont answer

Posted by: laughing gravy (4940) Report abuse
so SD they are all untrustworthy are they not? better the devil you know...

Posted by: whups (3917)   Report abuse
iv,e already answered that numpty which you did,nt reply to.

Posted by: laughing gravy (4940) Report abuse
no youve not liar you mentioned scotland, we dont live in scotland IDIOT

Posted by: Stardelta (6956) Report abuse
Yes LG, they can all be described as untrustworthy, a point I believe I made earlier.

Posted by: Stardelta (6956) Report abuse
Better the devil you know?

Interesting comment LG. I may choose to quote you on that at sometime in the future

Posted by: grimshaw (1937)  Report abuse
Good posts S d re the £200 billion .

Posted by: Stardelta (6956) Report abuse
Just read the Brexit party manifesto and election pledges. Seems they are hitting on a number of issues contentious with the British public totally unrelated to Brexit.......no surprises there

On the back of this what I can't understand is why the ruling parties haven't done these things themselves already, both to make the uk a better place for us ( because that is their basic function) and of course to bolster support. Could it be they know something that Nigel doesn't, could it even be Nigel does know something but isn't telling us?

The obvious questions are always the best

Any of Nigel's fan-boys going to take a stab and answer my question?



Then we can discuss where this figure of £200bn he has promised us is going to come from

Posted by: grimshaw (1937)  Report abuse
Dont hold your breath S d .

B T W .

Have you seen the pics of farage in his national front days campaigning alongside webster .?

Leopards and spots spring to mind .

Posted by: Stardelta (6956) Report abuse
It makes me laugh.

Don't vote for Bozza, he tells lies.
Don't vote for Jezza, he tells lies

VOTE FOR NIGEL INSTEAD



Posted by: firefox (77) Report abuse
Labour plan to borrow 400bn to 'invest' in the UK.


Man the lifeboats.

Posted by: Stardelta (6956) Report abuse
At least they are admitting to borrowing it. Nigeí hasnít told us where he is getting his dosh from.

Posted by: firefox (77) Report abuse
The Brexit party has little to no chance or being elected to form a Government. rather like labour just now.

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3731) Report abuse
TBP gets my vote in Wigan

Posted by: whups (3917)   Report abuse
so your all voting tory then .javid is also borrowing so he can give it to the rich.

Posted by: TerryW (2521) Report abuse
No. Never have and won't.

Posted by: Stardelta (6956) Report abuse
I am having steak and chips tonight,

Posted by: whups (3917)   Report abuse
last time i read that scotland was still part of britian numb nuts .and anyone voting brexit party or the defunked ukip are voting tory.

Posted by: mortarmillbill (462) Report abuse
I am still undecided but I have ruled out Labour.

I have never voted Conservative in my life but I need to follow my head and not my heart.

Ideally Wigan could be better off if it was a marginal seat but this would mean ignoring the Brexit Party and the Labour Party and lots of Wiganers voting Conservative probably for the first time as well.

Posted by: baker boy (14908) Report abuse
is it possible for any politician to have told the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth all their political lives,i may be wrong but i seriously doubt it.
remember the lady mp disclosed when she issued this statement ,"its a good day to bury bad news".
promises are not lies ,they are only such when not carried out.

Posted by: Zanzibar Spangles (3731) Report abuse

Posted by: Axcroft (31) Report abuse
Can't imagine it happening with a 16,000 plus majority.† But it's possible.†

I'm sure that a massive chunk of the†13,000 Tory voters would vote for the Brexit Party tactically (Tory voters would love to have an effective vote), regardless of whether there is a formal pact.
††
The big question in Wigan is, would the Labour Brexit voters desert Jeremy/Lisa in big enough numbers?† I'm not so sure.† But still lots of time left in the campaigns for events to happen.

††

Posted by: baker boy (14908) Report abuse
from what i have heard there are quite a lot going over to brexit from labour,is it enough or are we in the political wilderness forever.wigan being a strong hold for labour does zilch for the borough in political circles.

Posted by: tonker (20040)   Report abuse
Wigan being a stronghold for Labour can't be expected to work favours for "the borough" from a Conservative government.

Posted by: baker boy (14908) Report abuse
every company,shop or one man band as to start at some date in time.labour founded in 1900 had to wait 24 years for their first mp,so why is it different for any other organisation .the brexit party is a newcomer, but does it have more mep's than labour.your argument about how long established as no meaning whatsoever.

 
 
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