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Wigan town centre revamp details revealed
Started by: basil brush (10379) Report abuse
But will it bring folk in

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Posted by: chris southworth (561) Report abuse
How many versions is this one now?

Posted by: basil brush (10379) Report abuse
I can't see it making any difference whatsoever.

Posted by: tonker (19598)   Report abuse
“Wigan Council is committed to supporting the continued vitality of its town centres which is why we have invested money into both Wigan and Leigh over the last twelve months".

“Our town centres are hugely important ....."



There isn't only Wigan and Leigh town centres, though, so the council could do with investing a bit of money into the other town centres.
You know, the ones which most people who pay tax to this council actually live in?

They want to stop wasting money on rubbish like this, and bloody stupid gay parades to appease the minority!

Posted by: wigvet (3345) Report abuse
only one question - was this scheme put out to tender as I have not seen it advertised in the Construction periodicals -can someone find out??

Posted by: admin (432) Report abuse
"A space for Fairs, Markets, Live Events" We already had one it was called the MARKET SQUARE

Posted by: PeterP (6719) Report abuse
If they demolished the Gallery's Shopping Centre and built a large car park then every one would be happy The people who want to shop in what would be left of the Wigan shops (if M&S and Debenhams go)would be happy and them who use Wigan to park then go to Manchester/Liverpool would be even happier

Posted by: elizabeth (5427)  Report abuse
I HAVENT BEEN HOME WIGAN FOROVER 20 YRS AND TOLD BY SOMEONE DO NOT BOTHER THEY(COUNCIL) HAVE RUINED IT I RENENBER THE BIG TOWN CENTRE DOENSTAIRS TOILETS, BIG OPRN SQUARE WITH BUS STOPS , LOES BIG SHOP WITH ISLAND WINDOWS LIKE PENDLEBURYS LOVELY D D BUSES, BAKERS JEWELLERS, HUNTERS CHEMIST WATERWORTHS TOP OF COMMERCIAL YARD THEN THE YWO ARCADES BIG AMY KEEPING AN EYE ON THINGS OH I COULD GO ON// MEMORIES

Posted by: basil brush (10379) Report abuse
Well doing this will really attract people

"the replacement of existing benches, additional seating, recycling bins, installation of planters, trees and flowers, cycle parking facilities and lowering of the walled area".

Posted by: tonker (19598)   Report abuse
North Midland is a large construction company. This is a job for a handful of men over a fortnight.
Something doesn't add up!

Posted by: wigvet (3345) Report abuse
Definitely Tonker

1. This scheme did NOT go out to competitive tender

2. It would appear to have been ‘gifted’ to North Midland Construction

3. North Midland were NOT the cheapest on the tender for the initial scheme last year, a LOCAL company were

Posted by: wigvet (3345) Report abuse
As regards the initial Market Place scheme last year, which was scrapped –

North Midland Construction put in a tender of £1,167,154
A LOCAL company put a tender in of £1,044,527
Over 122,000 grand cheaper

And yet the LOCAL company have NOT been approached about the latest scheme

Full investigation needed methinks!

Posted by: admin (432) Report abuse
The whole system is CORRUPT Started with the building of the Galleries.

Posted by: PeterP (6719) Report abuse
The Galleries were built using Miners unions money. The Grande Arcade should never have been built it only took trade away from the Galleries

Posted by: tonker (19598)   Report abuse
PeterP - The Galleries were not built using miner's unions money.

Posted by: meleager (74)  Report abuse
I was told it was the Market that was built using miners money

Posted by: tonker (19598)   Report abuse
It's miner's, not minors. Anyroadup, miner's unions have not had any part in funding any commercial development in Wigan. Or anywhere else for that matter.

The miner's pension scheme has invested funds in all sorts of things, the World over. That's the Miner's Pension Scheme (MPS), nothing to do with the union.

Posted by: PeterP (6719) Report abuse
Tonker I stand corrected it was the MINERS who indirectly paid for the Galleries via their pension scheme to the tune of was it £75million or it could have been £95million I do not have the paper work to hand so cannot check which one it was. I spent 10 years in the NUM then 10 years in NACODS so some of my money probably went into some shopping centre on this island of ours

Posted by: tonker (19598)   Report abuse
Not the union, Peter. The MPS. Which is a government scheme, not a miner's union.

Posted by: Anne (3370)  Report abuse
Not only the miners pension scheme have invested in building projects ALL works pension schemes invest in many and varied projects. How else is cash generated to provide an individuals retirement pension?

Posted by: tonker (19598)   Report abuse
Draw your horns in, Anne!

I didn't suggest that ONLY the Miner's Pension Scheme invested in construction projects.

All I was doing is pointing out to Peter that the miners 'unions' weren't the ones who invested in The Galleries.

Posted by: meleager (74)  Report abuse

Posted by: Anne (3370)  Report abuse
Not targeted at you tonker, pointing out to pp as you were that's how pensions work.

Posted by: wigvet (3345) Report abuse
So according to ‘Wigan Today’ the construction company North Midland Construction PLC has been ‘chosen’ by the town hall to deliver the £510,000 scheme

But the question remains – How were they ‘chosen’ if NO other firms were invited to enter a competitive bid?

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (2887) Report abuse
The Galleries, were built by the 'Galleries Development Corporation' which put in the money, the Corporation consisted of several organisations which each invested money in the project the tune of as a percentage.

Miners Pension Fund = 65% (Whupsy money )
Beezer Homes = 23%
Wigan Council = 12%

I seem to remember that Morrison's had something to do with it too and they still have the lease on their old store there and they still pay rent on it until 2040

The deal comprised of Wigan Council owning outright The Galleries car park and running of the Market Hall and outdoor Market, with Council employees and I have a feeling that Wigan Council retained ownership of the land on which The Galleries sits.

Beezer Homes, who were house builders, were given or paid very little for Council owned land, to build social housing around Wigan, for Housing Associations, because at the time Councils were banned from building Council Houses.

The Galleries Development Corporation continued to run The Galleries until it was sold during the 1990's

Posted by: basil brush (10379) Report abuse
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Posted by: fossil (6642) Report abuse
Maybe they asked North Midland to revise its original tender!

 
 
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