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Original message (posted by rayonline5555)
I can`t believe this .I tell you where the proof is and you still doubt what I say? Tell you what Tonker take David up to preston Record Officeand ask to see the 1838 Tithe map and listings book for Ashton-in-Makerfield....You will need proof of identity to show you not from another planet... You both might have problems there!!.....you will be shown a massive map about 5ft x 7 ft and a seperate book. take some photos if you can ,I did but they didn`t turn out very well....and when you come back I will accept your apology with good grace.......Tonker, I said the poor people of Ashton were the OWNERS not the tenants. there is a suptle difference you know.....As owners they were exempted from paying taxes wheras if the Charity were the owners the would have been shown as such..... They registered the land in 2004 using the grounds that as they had received a rent since 1720 then that should be sufficien grounds to obtain ownership in 2016 provided no objections come in from any other party...i.e. representatives of the poor people of AShton.....get the drift? As I have been saying for 3 years ,the charity needs to be challenged for ownership rights and the community now has far more proof of that than the charity ever had......That poor land and the land on which the cross stood belongs to Stubshaw Cross and I am sick and tired of fighting this battle on my own.....I have other proof that this charity has acted illegally and if I get enough supporters I will confront them once again...But not on my own.....
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