I have traced back to 1881 for Joseph's father John who was born in Flintshire in 1878 but lived at different addresses in Wigan every time. John's father Richard was born in Bootle and his ancestors lived in the Formby area where Aindow is a fairly common name. It's my wife's granfather Joseph who I wanted to trace as he would have been an 8year old boy in 1911. I'm thinking his father may have been giving rent money to the tennant instead of the landlord, who knows ? Maybe I'll find him in the 1921 census when that's released.
Thanks all posters for your help.