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A proper full blooded Wigan bus. This bus entered service in 1961 and was the first of 14, the first 7 of which had Massey bodywork whilst the remainder were Northern Counties bodied. This bus was never repainted in Orange and white livery, instead it retained immaculate Wigan colours of crimson and white, and has won many major awards at vintage rallies.
Cheers Tom.

That's a cracking photo Tom. It looks like a very nice spring day as well. Have you got anymore?

An excellent photograph. Can anyone shed any light on the council`s reason for turning Wigan`s "colours"on signs and vans etc to blue and green ? Why remove part of the town`s history ?

Tom: A 'sparkling' photo. Thanks.
Colin: Your post has been delivered with relish. Is 'Crimson' the definitive red for this type of bus, please? I must have seen three or four different shades, while preferring that which is shown here. Thanks.

To Philip Cunliffe, It is probably to do with Global Warming
and Carbon footprint,to give the impression that they are
trying to save the planet. Green representing healthy countryside, and blue for clear blue skies.

To Philip Gormley, Many people have referred to the colour
of the corporation buses as "Cherry & White". I am told that
the colour is "Crimson Lake",as used by the LMS Railway.

I thought that it was " cherry and white " same as the rugby colours . Think that the signs have been changed for the Benefit of the " Wigan pathetic " fans ...though I dont know where the green comes from !!

scoles malc i think the green comes from envy!!!

Bus conductor on board as well,Any more tickets please?

Ray: Thanks for that. I've just looked-up Crimson Lake and discovered that it's also made by Humbrol for modellers, and by several manufacturers of artists' materials for their customers. Yourself and Colin are 'on the premises'.

The "Crimson Lake" colour is sometimes referred to as
"Carmine Red" and also as "Deep Carmine". Ribble buses
were also deep red, but a different shade of red.

Salt of the earth folk caught the No 23 bus, myself included! They should all be blue & white to commemorate the greatest day in this towns sporting history :-)

Ray: Deep red for sure; and then some. 'Ribble Red' will lead you to the photo that shows six buses side by side and in different shades of red. I can make make-out four.

if you go to Ledsons in Wigan the paint is in stock and is called WIGAN CRIMSON

A proper bus, and one that represented our town. A bus that didn't have about 4 domed CCTV cameras stuck on the outside (more excuses for safety but actually about more intrusion in everyone's lives) as well as about half a dozen cameras inside, not to mention no rude and ignorant drivers, signs everywhere telling people what they should & shouldn't do, and no electrosmog WiFi which isn't good for your health.

All these companies have been gobbled up by these corporations like Stagecoach and Arriva, which I think are controlled by the same people. They want to destroy everything which makes each town unique and turn it into any other place.

Is yon Mon texting while riding a bike?

Stan why spoil the post with that silly comment?

Philip Gormley
As an artist like me you must have Crimson Lake amongst your paints. For years I referred to the bus colours as cherry and red same as the RFL team! I remember the Liverpool Corporation buses being Green once upon a time !

I think he's eating a pie Stan. Different era.

The lad looks like he's been to Asda for a bag of shopping-good lad him! He just needed a basket on the front of his bike-but that wouldn't have been 'macho' would it? Look how wide a berth the bus driver is giving the cyclist - how decent of him.

Not been to Asda, HE'S GOING TOWARDS ASDA.

So what! He's been to M&S then.

No Bluesfan...that day was when WJB rode into town......on a Cherry and White bus !!

I have NOT posted on this photo
Sad that someone sees fit to impersonate another on here – some sad folk about

Scholes Malc, Who is or was WJB ??

No M&S too expensive. Try Tesco that use to be in King Street.

Well at least we agree on the shopping Alan!

Ray, William J Boston

John: You're thereabouts; I have Scarlet Lake as backup for Winsor Red - the former leaning very slightly towards orange, unfortunately. Sorry for the delay in replying, my computer's been 'down'.

Alan H, Thank you for the WJB info. Yer man didn't arrive in Wigan on a "Cherry & White" bus, He would have boarded
a Western Region train with "Chocolate & Cream" coaches in
Cardiff, and changed to a Midland Region train in Birmingham
with "Crimson Lake" coaches,and got off at Wigan North Western.

How do you know it's shopping???

Philip
No worries about delay in replying!
I'll look into my paint box and seeif I have a Scarley lake.
Oh by the way, its me John Peters, Phil from Royden Road !

Thanks, John. Shaley Brow Café, Room At the Top ..., of course I know who you are. I shouldn't worry too much about DRs Scarlet Lake either, as it's offered with a slight orange tinge; WNs Winsor Red is a preferable down-the-middle red.

I worked for Northern Counties & Massey Bros. I think as far as I can remember the red was Crimson Red. Did you know there was 4 colours on a Wigan bus exterior they were:- Crimson Red, White, Madder a type of brownish red lined on the mouldings where the crimson & white came together,also Black on the wheel arches and in the centre of the roof that was required to cut down the heat from the sun.

Don't forget the green light either side of the destination

There's a 5 minute colour film on YouTube, which shows GMT buses swirling around numerous Wigan town-centre locations - almost a whistle-stop tour. 'GMT Buses Wigan 1979'.

I could be riding home on that bus,brought up on Worsley Hall. With good people alround me.