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Ron it looks like Scholes to me,perhaps Veronica can recognise the layout of the incline.

It also has a look of Standishgate as well,the entrance being Actons garage..where we used to go.

Could it be Wallgate up the incline to Seven Stars?

My first impression was of Standishgate as Maureen says. Then again it could be Scholes, near where the lodging house was before Scholes crossings? it would be wonderful if somebody comes up with the location. Tom Walsh might know...

I put a comment on here and lost "t'internet" as I pressed "send" so am repeating it....my apologies if it appears twice! My husband worked at 118, Standishgate in the late 1960s/early 1970s and this photo reminds me of the broo leading up from where Iceland is now, up Standishgate towards his place of work. I know Wigan is quite "hilly" and it could be anywhere in Wigan, but it just looks familiar.

Good one Ron, love all these old photos could be Hallgate looking toward crofters pub.

I too think it’s Standishgate.

I have no idea where this is but its a great photo. Could the tall building to the right of the pic be a pub....or maybe a double fronted shop.

Looking again maybe the edge of the building on the left was a pub. Taking a guess at the lettering...Watkins Goblin Stout ??!

Watkins Dublin Stout, Helen.
An old Irish brewing company. They were trading until 1950.

Helen,I think it would more than likely be Dublin stout.

I've just Googled modern day Standishgate and the building furthest up the hill definitely looks like the start of the 3 storey buildings still on Standishgate today, opposite St Mary's church.

Helen, I think it's more likely to be Dublin stout !

That makes me think more than ever it could be Scholes with the Dublin Stout! Maybe the scene could be higher up Scholes towards Whelley.

The shop at top of hill could be Blackfords?

I think it's Scholes, we're is Tom, Veronica? To stop all our curiosity.

Roy,I've been on Google to try my luck..I'm beginning more and more to believe it's Standishgate.

Most definitely SCHOLES .....

The road is curving right up the hill. The bottom of Scholes up from Scholes bridge was a on a bend where the Rose and Crown and the Balcarres pubs were.

The steepest part of scholes was from scholes crossing up to Wellington st the photo looks steep from the buildings at the bottom to the top

It has all features of an area where eventually the Scholes cinema would have been built. The photograph looks to be prior to 1900.

Albert, I think your right.The building in the far corner on the right side looks like Scholes Picture house, with a lot of people gathered outside.

I have just looked at a photo of Scholes Pictures Building in 1932 and it has the round window at the top, just like the one in the tall building. Mystery ! It's Scho.

The building may not have been a Picture House at the time the photograph was taken.

Veronica the 'round window' on the Scholes cinema image is higher than the one on this image. This image shows the round ? which I think is a clock? in between the two square windows.
The best solution as to where this image is, is to find out where the two named shops were.

Oh Drat! I wouldn't be any good as a 'tec then Ron.
It still has a Scholes feel though for me..

Veronica,I wish we could find out the location..I've been through every photo I think of Wigan..but it still looks like Standishgate to me..please help ...anybody.

Veronica,I wish we could find out the location..I've been through every photo I think of Wigan..but it still looks like Standishgate to me..please help ...anybody.

I was looking at picture number 1779 Maureen. I know the Picture House was there in the 1920's as my dad said his mother used to put him under her shawl to get inside! He was born in 1919.

It seems there may have been a J Whalley, Vict. In Scholes...could that have been a Licenced Victualler ? Its such an intriguing pic, makes you want to know more about it.

Veronica,where is the numbered picture ?
And Helen,where have you found J.Whalley,I thought I'd looked everywhere.

I put 'Scholes Pictures' under the magnifying glass at the top in search. It's on the second page after scrolling down Maureen.

Thank you Veronica but whenever I click on the search box a narrow white strip comes on,but as soon as I try to put anything there it just disappears..think my iPads tired.

Maureen a white strip with 'Google' does come up but you just type over it.. X

No Veronica..it just disappears all together.. I can type forever but it's all gone..there's nothing there...it used to work,I used it a lot.

Maureen. In the search box are you putting #: in front of the number, if not, it will not give you the photograph you require.

Albert,it won't let me put anything there,as I say it just disappears.

Albert,it won't let me put anything there,as I say it just disappears.

This photo is Wallgate, it shows the plot of land now occupied by the Tower building/Masonic Lodge buliding which is between the Swan & Railway and Victoria Hotel.
You can see the chimneys of the Victoria hotel on the far right of the photo.
The photograper would have their back to Wigan North Western Station.
The pub on the left was demolished to make way for the Swan & Railway you can see it in Ron's most recent photo of Wallgate Bridge looking the other way down Wallgate.

Phil thanks for your observation Just looked at a photograph of the VICTORIA and the chimney stack does look the same.. I was thrown off it being Wallgate as the incline looks more steep than it does today. Well done <g>

Well,thank God that's sorted..as you said Ron it did say Wallgate on the back of it.

yippee! 1 to you Maureen nil to me! ;o))

No Veronica,it's nil to me as well..I could have sworn it was Standishgate...at last it's sorted eh!!!

Listed in the 1905 Kelly's Directory At 76 Wallgate is James Whalley Tobacconist and Newsagent. He lives in Park Crescent in 1891 and 1901.

Kath, well done.. I had looked in a couple of directories but couldn't find the name. Where did you access the Kelly's Directory???

So, is one of those buildings still there? I'm thinking of what used to be Pooles.

Ron, I replied yesterday to tell you Ancestry but it appears to have gone to Santa. Now that it's been agreed that it is Wallgate I looked at 1895 and James Whalley Tobacconist was at 84 Wallgate.

The Tower Buildings we're completed in 1898 as was the Swan & Railway - making this photograph quite old. Victoria Hotel built 1894 so this photograph is between 1894 & 1898. I too suspected it was on Wallgate and had the same findings as Phil Taylor. I sat back and waited after considering it being elsewhere and was completely stumped at my lack of findings.