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St Patricks RC Church, Hardybutts,Wigan   Views: 1086
St Patís   Comments: 18
Photo: DTease   Item #: 31234  
St Patís
  I bought this from a stall at Todmorden Market. Itís a very interesting read with many photographs.  

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Comments by Veronica, 25th May 2019  
I have this book it's really interesting- my dad got it for me in 1997. Brought back so many memories. "Its warmth undiminished" 1847 - 1997. 5 Generations of my family , marriages, births and deaths all recorded here.

Comments by Mick, 25th May 2019  
I was at Todmorden and Hebden Bridge markets yesterday

Comments by Joseph, 26th May 2019  
I have this too and have posted some of the photos on WW from the book.

Comments by Albert.S., 26th May 2019  
Did any other parish have the foresight of someone in the Parish of St Patrickís, to initiate such a book, as the one depicted. It must give a lot of nostalgic pleasure to old parishioners of St Patrickís, that possess this book.

Comments by Veronica, 26th May 2019  
A book to read over again and again - the church and community was without exception, unsurpassed in my opinion. I have never come across anything like it since and doubt at this late stage, I ever will again. You really would have had to be born in the parish to understand what a close community it was. Whether this 'closeness'' was due to the influx of the Irish contingent in the 1850's and passed down through the generations I can't say - but it must have helped because of the shared tribulation in leaving the land of their birth.

Comments by RON HUNT, 26th May 2019  
A friend of mine, Brian Murphy, who died a few years ago. wrote a book about the History of St Cuthbert's Pemberton. He also wrote one on Wigan Cinemas. Both books, as well as this one, are rare. The St Pats. book would probably cost you around £30.00 if you can find one. I saw one for sale on Ebay a couple of years ago for £25.00

Comments by Graham Taylor, 26th May 2019  
Catholic records are very hard to access. A record like this would be worth it's weight in gold and would be great if it was copied and distributed for the people of Wigan and ex parishioners of St. Pats.

Comments by Veronica, 26th May 2019  
I found all the copies on fiche and had them copied Graham. They were in the History Shop about 20 years ago. Some are quite indistinct but can be made out and their names are all in Latin. My earliest one is a baptismal record of my grt grandfather in 1857. I don't know whether you can still find them in the History Museum.

Comments by DTease, 26th May 2019  
The thing that struck me most on a quick read through this book was the amount of respect that was freely given to such as Fr. McCormick, Fr. Lappin and others by a community that was reluctant to bend the knee to anyone who didnít truly deserve it.

Comments by Ed, 27th May 2019  
If the church was 150 years old in 1997,we are now in 2019,therefor the church is 172 years old.

Comments by Graham Taylor, 27th May 2019  
Thanks Veronica, I will pay a visit to the History Shop to have a look.

Comments by tuddy, 27th May 2019  
Ed, I think it's the parish that's 172 years old, not the present church.

Comments by Ed, 28th May 2019  
Tuddy you are correct it is the parish.

Comments by Veronica, 29th May 2019  
The old boys' school was the original church that was built in 1847. Previous to that - St Mary's was the 'Mother' Church where baptisms, Marriages etc.were performed. The old church was also used as a school as the congregations grew. It was in the late 1880's that the present church was built from money raised by the people from collections and events such as the yearly Balls. I remember at school going to the Ball held in the old Wigan Baths. It's a marvellous, historical read if you are an old parishioner, I wouldn't part with my copy for a king's ransom.

Comments by Veronica, 29th May 2019  
ps the small side benches in the present church came from the old church, and the main altar from the old church is still used as a side altar. If I ever visit St Pat' s I'm always drawn to the old benches, as that is where my grandmother always knelt as a daily Mass goer.

Comments by Albert.S., 29th May 2019  
My wife, and I clicked with each other at St Patrickís Ball, Wigan Empress, September, 1959. We married at St Maryís, Standishgate, September, 1961. My brother in Law, John Harte was always an active member of St Patrickís Church, and parish.

Comments by Veronica, 29th May 2019  
Albert : John Hart's photo is in the book with a little bit of a citation. I bet many couples met at the Balls at the Emp..

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