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Market Hotel
Market Hotel
Photo: RON HUNT
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Item #: 29951
View of the MARKET HOTEL Mesnes street Wigan. I remember with great relish the pies they served up in there. BEST pies ever with gravy to die for. My regular lunch time meal, a pie ( sometimes 2) and 1/2pt of IPA. The pies served then were at least twice as big as what passes for pies these days. If I remember correctly, a pie and 1/2 of IPA was about 1s 10d Colin Cook was Mine Host at that time i.e. c.1966

Comment by: Eric on 30th November 2017 at 22:56

Good memories here Ron.started going in here in 1964.pie and gravy,and a bottle of newquie brown fantastic

Comment by: DTease on 30th November 2017 at 23:25

Newcastle Brown Eric? watch your back you'll have Howard P and his sidekick Alan on your case.

Comment by: Veronica on 30th November 2017 at 23:50

Even Ron had a swift half as well with his pie.

Comment by: TD,. on 1st December 2017 at 07:32

Ron the craving has kicked in as I have also sampled the outstanding pie and gravy at the Market Hotel, sloshed down with a glass of the old liquid desert. Simply delicious.

Comment by: RON HUNT on 1st December 2017 at 09:42

Eric thinking back it was probably around 1963/64 when I started going in at lunch time. We always sat in the MEN ONLY room and was served by a couple of, what to us, were old women but they would probably have only been in their 50's. It was when I left school and started at John Englands It was 1966 when I left John Englands What a nice man Colin Cook was. In those days everyone knew the names of all the landlords of the pubs in Wigan as they had been there years, not like today.

Comment by: Albert. on 1st December 2017 at 10:06

There is a photograph of some of the staff, under WORK. Top, first entry.

Comment by: Joe Thomas on 1st December 2017 at 14:09

Everything as been said about this great pub trying to think how many other pubs had so many doors there's four showing and there was another in the yard you could enter as well

Comment by: Cyril on 1st December 2017 at 18:21

Colin's son commented somewhere on the site, though I can't find it, however he said that the gravy they put on the pies was actually oxtail soup. The photo of the girls states that they sold Edwards pies, so Ron you did well to be able to do your afternoon shift after eating two of their pies, they were massive. I liked McEwan's export and Tartan bitter that was on draught there, the only other Wigan pub that sold Scottish and Newcastle that I knew of was the Rock Ferry at Lower Ince.

Comment by: Philip Cunliffe on 1st December 2017 at 20:07

Excellent pies. Those with sliced onion on top, which may not have been served for that long, were the ones that made it for me.

Comment by: Mick on 2nd December 2017 at 07:12

Ron’s comment about everyone knowing the name of the town centre licensees made me think of the landlords and landladies from the 1970s I can remember.
Naturally Colin Cook was at The Market and Mrs Brown at the Park Hotel, and then you had Nobby Clark at the Dog and Partridge, Walter Baron at The Raven, Stan (Ashcroft?) at The White Horse, Eva Leach at The Whitesmiths, John O’Neill at The Griffin, Frank Fielding at The Pear Tree, and Gordon Rosbotham at The Colliers.
The licensees of The Crofters, Minorca, and Black Horse slip my mind.

Comment by: Eric on 2nd December 2017 at 12:44

Carrying on the theme of the pies,yhey where sold in the evening.not many pubs did this in the 60s .you had to rely on crisp or cheeseAnd onion biscuits

Comment by: RON HUNT on 2nd December 2017 at 13:31

Philip, forgot about the home made sliced onion pickle. What wouldn't I give to taste those pies gravy and pickles again...

Comment by: Peter on 2nd December 2017 at 21:14

Went in for dinner in the 60s great atmosphere ,Smoke smells of good beers,local eccentric people ,! Bill clapper.and always alive with local people.

Comment by: Albert. on 3rd December 2017 at 16:06

Cyril. Rock Ferry, appears to be a spanking new pub. I have just had a look at it, on the internet. It did go under the name "Little Rock." The "Big Rock" was further on, towards Wigan. I do believe that was a Magee Marshal pub.

Comment by: Carolaen on 3rd December 2017 at 17:51

I have mentioned before on a similar theme, that there are some really great nostalgic drawings - about the Market Hotel in the late 1960s/1970s in Bryan Talbot's wonderful book "Dotter of Her Fathers Eyes". Bryan is a world renowned graphic artist and the story - which is written by his wife Mary is basically her autobiography of growing up in Wigan from the 1950s onwards in her and her meeting with Bryan (Personal note I was great friends with Bryan at WGS and was also at the party in Wigan were they"met"). The book also deals with Mary's complex family relationship with her Father - James S Atherton who not only was a Wigan school teacher but THE world famous authority on James Joyce. The book won the 2012 Costa Biography award.

Even if you have no interest in James Joyce etc the book should be of great interest to Wigan World viewers as it is a stunning evocation of what it was really like growing up in those times and there are wonderful recreations of Wigan in the 1960s - Mesnes Park, the Market Hotel etc. The Market was the stomping ground of a group of us, including Bryan, who started going there when we were at the Grammar School (Don't tell Albert !). My great abiding memory of the palace was how everyone from old blokes in flat caps, working men and even us long haired Led Zeppelin fans were made welcome and we all played dominoes, ate potato pies and supped pints of Bitter (even if was Tartan Special) together. Truly Happy Days

Comment by: Albert. on 4th December 2017 at 11:18

Carolaen. It was far, far less harmful for you to have a pint of beer, even if you were only sixteen, or seventeen, than pumping yourself with all manner of drugs, that seems the present pleasure booster, activator.

Comment by: Eric on 4th December 2017 at 20:50

This being my first waterhole.we was all (don’t tell alberts)!

Comment by: Albert. on 6th December 2017 at 10:12

I remember one winter's night it had started to snow, and some villain, or villains' had done a smash and grab at the jeweller's, on the opposite corner to the Market Hotel. It would be 1960. An astute Wigan Borough police officer followed their footprints that were imprinted in the fresh snow, and arrested them, quite away from the scene. I believe the officer was Bill Cox.

Comment by: Gemma Heald on 31st December 2017 at 13:54

My nan worked here in the 70s when Mrs Brown was the landlady.Everyone loved my nan. {Mavis}

Comment by: RON HUNT on 31st December 2017 at 14:17

Gemma, wrong pub this is the MARKET HOTEL. Mrs. Brown was landlady at the PARK HOTEL

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