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BRS Kitt Green   Views: 1582
AEC Artic Lorry   Comments: 46
Photo: Ray Smyth   Item #: 30029  
AEC Artic Lorry

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  This AEC Artic was from BRS Depot at Kitt Green.
It is just possible to read the stencilled words
on the rear of the cab,Prescott Lane,Kitt Green.

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Comments by Howard P, 31st December 2017  
I suspect BRS is now defunct.

Comments by TD,., 31st December 2017  
I suspect an old Goodyear and the wish for a happy new Goodyear.

Comments by Howard P, 1st January 2018  
I suspect you've Dunlop have you!

Comments by Arthur, 1st January 2018  
Is it a 1122.5 no it's 1000x20 tubed tyre with split rim.

Comments by JJP, 1st January 2018  
Happy New Year everyone ! I think this is one of the AEC Mercury's that an old neighbour used to drive, like most lorry drivers I've known, a fine fellow.

Comments by TD,., 1st January 2018  
I suspect a replacement on HP.

Comments by . Ozymandias ., 1st January 2018  
It may be just a shunt motor Ray, or at least I would like to think so, or possibly the ' punishment motor ' for recalcitrant drivers, but I would hate to think that I was setting off on a Sunday afternoon for a fortnight, tramping around the country with that shed, although a lot of the stuff we used to drive wasn't that much better was it really?, probably worse in many instances. I realise that this motor dates back to the 60's, but if there's anyone out there that's still looking for reasons why the continental truck manufacturers wiped the floor with the Brits, then look no further than this splendid example of what Southall could produce.

Comments by Ray Smyth, 1st January 2018  
Well said Ozy, Yes, this lorry would have been new approx.
1964/65, and this picture, in my opinion, will be from the
early 1970s, when it was approaching the end of its life.
The FG Depot code was Northampton, and its appearance suggests that BRS Kitt Green used it as a local shunter.

Comments by Alan, 1st January 2018  
This is a day cab not a sleeper cab.

Comments by Arthur, 1st January 2018  
Not only truck manufacturers but cars vans etc.
These trucks never went on nights out.

Comments by Ray Smyth, 1st January 2018  
Alan...When this AEC Lorry was new in the mid 1960s,sleeper
cabs were virtually unheard of. This type of AEC Lorry would
have been one of the main choices of vehicle for long distance work. Arthur...In my early days of long distance
work, It was quite common for a driver to stay overnight in
"Transport Digs", some were good, some were dreadful,up to
10 drivers in one room, no en suite facilities. I created my
own bed in the cab,as did hundreds of drivers. For example,
if I had booked "Known" decent digs in say,Stirling, and because of unavoidable delays during the day, and if I did
not have enough legal driving time left, I would have to park up, and stay overnight in the cab...At least I knew that my sleeping bag was squeaky clean.

Comments by . Ozymandias ., 1st January 2018  
The first wagon that I ever drove that was equipped with a proper sleeper cab was a forward control 1418 Merc that was allocated to me from new in 1974. The registration was RBA 68 N, a Manchester reg. In the years prior to this, we often had little option other than to sleep across the engine of wagons with day cabs, as digs very often weren't always available. It wasn't as bad as it may sound though, as we always carried short lengths of board and pieces of sponge cut to size, which were stored in the passenger foot well and on the passenger seat. It was just a case of being prepared for any eventuality, and myself and many other drivers besides, have spent many a night out in wagons fitted with day cabs.

Now look at the typically British idea of a fuel gauge on the tank of this A.E.C. As late as 1984 I was driving a Leyland Octopus with an ergomatic cab, the TL11 engine and a Spicer gearbox. AFT 41 V , registered in Newcastle in 1979. A great motor to drive, when it wasn't in the workshop having some problem or other sorted out, which was pretty much every other week. The damn thing would have bankrupted an owner driver. This wagon also had one of those useless fuel gauges on the side of the tank, and this on a motor that was registered as late as 1979. It also had a day cab, until I found a professionally made fold down bunk in a breaker's yard in Widnes, and fitted it myself. Prior to that, in the summer months at least, I'd stretch a sheet from the headboard over the boom of the Hiab, and kip on top of the load. I found it quite enjoyable actually, a bit like being paid for going on a camping holiday. But please don't try to tell me that day cabs weren't used for tramping, as you're just displaying your ignorance.

Comments by Alan, 2nd January 2018  
I do hope you both slept well !!!!
Not for me!
Home every night and bed.

Comments by Howard P, 3rd January 2018  
I suspect most of us had a proper job, home every day.

Comments by Veronica, 3rd January 2018  
Alan and Howard did you both have steaming mugs of Horlicks awaiting your arrival home from work - just a thought?!

Comments by . Ozymandias ., 3rd January 2018  
Which job would that have been Howard, operating the bacon slicer at the co-op, or polishing the prams at Mothercare ?

Comments by Howard P, 4th January 2018  
Put it this way: I never got my hands dirty and home every day, oh and got well paid.
I suspect you might say I've done ok. I retired at 59...
With a very good pension.

Comments by Anne, 6th January 2018  
Ha ha well said Howard.

Comments by DTease, 6th January 2018  
I suspect that a never ending round of work followed by tele followed by bed followed by work would become very tedious after a while.
No one wants to work all the time. Humans are basically lazy. Necessity wasn't the mother of invention, laziness was. Even Howard P retired early.

Comments by Veronica, 7th January 2018  
I didn't get my hands dirty either and I worked 4 years beyond retirement - loved every minute of it. I 'suspect' we are all different - theres nothing wrong with getting down and dirty working on wagons either -classed as highly essential work in delivering goods! Where would the country be without them?!

Comments by Howard P, 7th January 2018  
He he he. I suspect jealousy could be in order.
These days I'm more busier than ever.

Comments by DTease, 7th January 2018  
Howard, you really are a lucky rascal. Nothing to do all day except count your money, wash your hands and make cups of Horlicks. I don't know how you can stand all that excitement I really don't.

Comments by Veronica, 7th January 2018  
I 'suspect' Howard receives free supplies of Horlicks on retirement until he reaches the stage of 'The Big Sleep'!

Comments by Howard P, 7th January 2018  
Ho ho ho, now Veronica is at it now I suspect.

Comments by . Ozymandias ., 7th January 2018  
" These days I'm more busier than ever. " ..... mmmm, let me ruminate on this for a moment...." More busier than ever " .....by Jove, I think may I have it.... Howard, you're obviously a lecturer in English grammar at one of this country's red brick universities. This would explain the clean hands, the early retirement and the generous renumeration. It would also explain the image that I have of a slender, plastic tipped, one metre long length of flat metal, used to check the oil level in an internal combustion engine. The name of which will no doubt come to me the very second I press the submit button.

Comments by . Ozymandias ., 7th January 2018  
' Dipstick ', that's the word I was trying to think of,....' dipstick '..... Isn't it always the same?, you struggle for ten minutes to think of the word, then five seconds after you click on submit, you suddenly remember the word you were trying to think of, as if by magic. But that's the one, dipstick, no doubt about it.

Comments by Arthur, 8th January 2018  
Most later cars including HGVs don't have dipsticks anymore, they have computer dashboard levels.

Comments by Howard P, 8th January 2018  
I'm trying to think of something used to maintain Hgvs, no doubt that ozy bloke has use it sometime or other. I just can't think if it. You know what it reminds me of him. When I click off, it will come to me I'm sure.

Comments by Howard P, 8th January 2018  
What did I tell you, well it's come to me. Swarfega Duck oil, that it, "Swarfega Duck Oil".

Comments by Ste, 8th January 2018  
Cant remember last time checked me oil??
I've changed it.

Comments by Fred Sidal, 8th January 2018  
My car is a Mercedes and don't have a dipstick.

Comments by Alex, 8th January 2018  
Ozy..you wrote " I think may I have it"

It should say "I think I may have it"

Comments by Veronica, 8th January 2018  
Well there's quite a few more grammatical mistakes amongst that lot Alex for correction purposes. I don't think Howard was a Journalist either!!!

Comments by DTease, 8th January 2018  
My car has a dipstick. Two if you count the one behind the wheel.
I wouldn't say I'm a bad driver, I usually get where I'm going and sometimes I even get back. It's the bit in between that causes the trouble!

Comments by Howard P, 8th January 2018  
I don't suspect Veronica is perfect, not by a long chalk.

Comments by Anne, 8th January 2018  
Well said Howard.

Comments by DTease, 8th January 2018  
Er...you're not related to Howard by any chance are you Anne?

Comments by Veronica, 8th January 2018  
Pity Howard can't compose a sentence without the word 'suspect' !

Comments by Anne, 9th January 2018  
Yes Howard is my friend.
D Tease, are you related to ozy and veronica.

Comments by Howard P, 9th January 2018  
I suspect on this account you could be right Veronica.

Comments by DTease, 9th January 2018  
Just asking Annie, no need to go on the offensive and no I'm not related to Ozymandias or Veronica. In fact I have never met either of them.

Comments by . Ozymandias ., 9th January 2018  
That's a pity really DTease, even though I can never actually envisage it happening, I daresay we could all have a reet good laugh if we got together...I'm including everyone here by the way. It seems such a pity that in the relatively short lifespan that we are allocated, we should spend such a large proportion of this time engaged in unproductive quarrelling....Ray posted a photo of a wagon, but yet only about half a dozen comments out of 41 so far have been about the wagon. This leads me to suspect that personalities may be beginning to eclipse the core issues. I consider myself to be no less guilty in this respect than anyone else, The time, quite possibly, may have arrived to remove the tumour that is threatening the overall wellbeing of the site. I hasten to add that this statement must not in any way be considered to represent a white flag, but I will concede that it may be considered to represent an olive branch. Let's try to get things back on an even keel eh?...... and..... One...Two...Three...Oh, I will if you will so will I,... yes if I will if you will so will I,.... Oh if you will then I will, I will if you will,....if Garry's having a sherry so will I. ( sung to the tune of ' she'll be coming round the mountain when she comes ") , or ' Stars and Stripes forever ' by Sousa, if that particular tune should just happen to float your boat.

Regards. Ozy.

Comments by Veronica, 10th January 2018  
I must say Ozy, Dtease and some others who shall remain nameless- I'm drawn to the ones who write interesting and witty comments- I suppose you could say not so much friends as 'kindred spirits' in a sense. We could pass each other on the streets of Wigan and not know we had. So much for being 'friends'! Apologies to Ray for using his photo as a vehicle.

Comments by Ray, 10th January 2018  
Veronica...Thank you for your comments earlier today. I have
just posted another lorry photo, A Reed Transport Scania artic which dates from 1973. I hope that some former Reeds drivers see it, and perhaps root out some Reeds lorry photos
from the 70s, including the blue "Reed Corrugated" lorries.

Comments by Veronica, 10th January 2018  
Good for you Ray! I'm sure you will get a response from all the ex drivers.

Comments by Alf, 10th January 2018  
41 comments and only half a dozen about the truck..well because Hgvs are boring that's why.

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