Wigan Album
Railways
15 CommentsPhoto: Richard Long
Item #: 27888
The signals indicate that this train has just left the Pemberton Loop and will probably be bound for Wakefield with 'empties' from Liverpool. The train is hauled by an Austerity 2-10-0; we knew them as Dub D's. The Westwood cooling towers can be clearly seen on the left in the background. Great photograph.
WD/8 90233 cut up 31/12/1967 last shed Wakefield.
when I lived alongside the pemberton loop line in the fifties,I had every wakefield austerity in my book
Jarvo this is a 2-8-0 WD Nos. 90000 to 90732 were all 2-8-0s The 2-10-0s were numbered 90750 to 90774. They were a pig to photograph because the front end "chuntered" from side to side a lot, you needed good weather and a camera with a fast shutter speed! I liked them though.
Jarvo could be thinking it's a 9F.
I liked the Dub D's as well. And they did sway a bit at the front. They took a load of stick, but did a great job. However, my favs were the Crabs; a well liked engine by many crews and always on show at the Branch.
the reason for the shuttling was poor wheel balancingand it only happened when coasting ,when steam was supplied they where ok,but the usual coal for these engines was poor quality or the dreaded egglets.coal picking on the pemb loop line and you could find any number of egglets.they stung your eyes when they went on the fire if you got too close.
It's simple, these engines were made cheap and quickly during the second world war, nothing fancy just basic.
Gerry. Weren't they usually called utilities. Used to see quite a few of them, at Springs Branch, after the 2nd world war.
I'm not too sure, Albert. WD 8 Austerity mainly used for heavy freight during and after the 2nd world war until the end of steam in 1968. As I've said earlier, a cheap basic engine with no frills.
Robin Riddles designed these workhorses. They did their job and more. They were regular on the Pem Loop during the mid to late sixties.
These were austerity locos 2-8-0 locos designed by ROBERT Riddles who actually designed most of the post war BR locos.They were introduced in 1943 by the Ministry of Supply and passed to BR in 1948.Their power was classed as 8F and their tractive effort was 34215lbs the same as the 2-10-0 version.The 2-8-0 locos were built at Glasgow(545) and Vulcan foundary Newton Le Willows (390)There were 150 2-10-0 built in Glasgow by North Britsh. Many 2-8-0 saw service abroad, before being repatriated. The 2-10-0 had a lighter axle loading that made it better for use on secondary lines.
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Robert Arthur "Robin" Riddles. His full name.
Robin Riddles was Stanier's assistant at Crewe during the thirties. Robin later designed the 9F's. Robin and Stanier would often board overnight locos travelling from Euston to Glasgow to chat to engine crews and observe their ways of driving. This was excellent for future design and development purposes. They were both true gentlemen and very popular with all LMS drivers and firemen.